How’s you extra hour NHS staff??

[Anickasmidden]

How’s your department dealing with it? Ours is a mess nobody happy, management don’t have a clue…

[IDontDrinkTea]

It’s the same every year. I can’t believe you don’t get paid for working it

[NC03]

There was nothing worse than seeing the clock go back and working the same hour again
Never got paid as "it will work itself out" but I always seemed to cop for the extra hour back not forward!

[MothQuandary]

In Spring the clocks go forward, not back, so you work an hour less on the night shift… surely?

[Mumofteenandtween]

@MothQuandary

In Spring the clocks go forward, not back, so you work an hour less on the night shift… surely?

I was just thinking that. Presumably Saturday night is the most popular night of the year to work.

[Mummyofthewildones]

When I worked nights in the NHS the night staff would work an extra half hour, and the day staff would come in half an hour earlier. I always seemed to be on nights when it happened 🫠

[Auntieobem]

I thought for a minute you were talking about the change in NHS Scotland where from 1st April full time is 37 hours instead of 37.5. It's going to be a shitshow

[AnnaMagnani]

I remember seeing a very bitter note from the SHO on nights who had reviewed a patient at 1am.

He had pointedly underlined the next review as 1am Again.

I could feel his pain.

[NC03]

@AnnaMagnani

I remember seeing a very bitter note from the SHO on nights who had reviewed a patient at 1am.

He had pointedly underlined the next review as 1am Again.

I could feel his pain.

I remember getting handed this sheet for breaks and lunches and yeah... think my face said it all

[vodkaredbullgirl]

I worked nights when the clocks went back, now this weekend I'm working when they go forward.

[Anickasmidden]

@Auntieobem

I thought for a minute you were talking about the change in NHS Scotland where from 1st April full time is 37 hours instead of 37.5. It's going to be a shitshow

Yes this is what I meant sorry!! I didn’t realise it was just Scotland or I’d have put in scotsnet

[RRINMIM]

When I worked nights (not NHS) it was 12 hr shifts so you did either 11 or 13 when the clocks changed but it was credited accordingly. I always forgot to request no nights when it was the long one. 😭

[Invisimamma]

@Auntieobem

I thought for a minute you were talking about the change in NHS Scotland where from 1st April full time is 37 hours instead of 37.5. It's going to be a shitshow

Me too. My dp is getting it as paid overtime for the foreseeable as there's no way they can reduce the working week for his department s shifts. Most must be the same.huge overtime bill, no notable difference for staff.

[treadingonlego]

I'm part time and being told I need to reduce my hours pro-rata. So, an extra 6 minutes a day for this stage. It's completely ridiculous.

ETA: obviously it's 6 minutes a day for full timers too, but ridiculous when you don't even work 30 hours a week anyway.

[BigBoysDontCry]

@treadingonlego

I'm part time and being told I need to reduce my hours pro-rata. So, an extra 6 minutes a day for this stage. It's completely ridiculous.

ETA: obviously it's 6 minutes a day for full timers too, but ridiculous when you don't even work 30 hours a week anyway.

Edited

Surely they just change the % of your part time? So instead of being paid 80% of your fte, you get 81%? That's for a 30 hour, obviously you'd need to adjust based on what you actually do.

No NHS but at one point my pay was 92% of fte, it's an easy enough calc for payroll rather than pissing about with lopping off 6 minutes (or pro rata minutes) from people's work patten.

So in reality even for full timers they'll just have to credit them with half hour per week overtime paid at normal pay rate?

[Toddlerteaplease]

We claim our time back for it.

[Toddlerteaplease]

Completely mucks up fluid balance charts though.

[Anickasmidden]

@Toddlerteaplease

We claim our time back for it.

Are you allowed to build it up and take it when you want? We are getting told no to both these things x

[treadingonlego]

Surely they just change the % of your part time? So instead of being paid 80% of your fte, you get 81%?

They don't want to pay any extra money. It's a total shambles.

[treadingonlego]

So in reality even for full timers they'll just have to credit them with half hour per week overtime paid at normal pay rate?

Alas, in reality it's because the pay deal involved a shorter working week, rather than actual pay.

[BigBoysDontCry]

Well I agree that they don't want to pay them any more but the reality is that this hasn't been implemented yet across services so they won't have a choice.

H is an ambulance driver and hasn't even heard of it much less had his shifts adjusted and it starts next week.

[Wheredoesthetime]

We are trying to sort this for our department (corporate). It is already giving me a headache. So many different shift patterns and we also have flexi for most staff so that will be fun!

[LastnightIDreamedofManderley]

Been hearing about this change a lot recently and I don’t understand. WHY is it being reduced, and how does it work? I work 9-5 - does that mean I leave half an hour early one day? I really don’t get it at all

[Violetpuma]

@LastnightIDreamedofManderley

Been hearing about this change a lot recently and I don’t understand. WHY is it being reduced, and how does it work? I work 9-5 - does that mean I leave half an hour early one day? I really don’t get it at all

It’s meant to improve work/life balance and your pay won’t be affected by it. I think the plan is to gradually reduce the hours from 37.5 to 36hrs per week over 3? years. From 1st of April 2024 the first reduction is 30 minutes per week.

https://www.rcn.org.uk/news-and-events/news/implementation-of-afc-review-recommendations-010324

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/policies-and-guidance/reduced-working-week-for-scotland-nurses-from-april-01-03-2024/

[lezsucks]

It’s caused so many issues and increased work load for staff. Tbh I’d be happy if I managed to keep my working week to 37.5 hrs.
I’m not sure why the RCN have accepted this.

[MrsAmaretto]

It’s a joke, in my team we’re all part-time, and I can’t see how 18mins will improve my well-being!