Still European

[MrsBrunch]

Does anyone know why people are putting this on their FB profile picture?

Obviously when we left the EU we didn't leave the continent, we are still part of europe. Is it because some people think we aren't or something?

[2magpies1pigeon]

The BBC now talk about "Europe" as something the UK is not part of. They say - we talked to a "European", rather than "someone from the EU." It must be a politically influenced decision to do that.

[Fifilafrog]

@AlexaShutUp

They obviously did a good job on us!

They did indeed, Fifilafrog!

We must have been there at the same time, probably had lots of the same teachers. I have such fond memories of school!!

Me too, life was so simple then!

Some very memorable teachers who no doubt had a part in shaping who we are today 😊

Stay safe, stay European! X

[AlexaShutUp]

They obviously did a good job on us!

They did indeed, Fifilafrog!

We must have been there at the same time, probably had lots of the same teachers. I have such fond memories of school!!

[Fifilafrog]

@AlexaShutUp

*AlexaShutUp

We may have gone to the same school!

I 0

Was your school uniform inspired by the European colours, FifilaFrog?

Yes it was!

Must be the same one! Well, I can't say that I'm at all surprised to see another person from that school on one of these threads! May I ask when you were there? (I left in 1991)

I left in 93. How funny! They obviously did a good job on us! 🇪🇺😃

[JayAlfredPrufrock]

😂

[MeringueCloud]

@MeringueCloud

www.mammashop.dk/blogs/nyheder/drengenavne-ideer-2020

Those are the top baby boy names in Denmark. William is number one!

Sorry, wrong thread!

[MeringueCloud]

www.mammashop.dk/blogs/nyheder/drengenavne-ideer-2020

Those are the top baby boy names in Denmark. William is number one!

[DappledThings]

@MrsBrunch

I'm saying it because it is comforting to me to point out that dragging me out of the EU doesn't mean I don't get to call myself European anymore. And there are is a massive crowd of people who don't like that, who want Brexit to mean we aren't European anymore

That's not my experience so maybe that's why we are looking at this from different angles. The people I know who voted leave only wanted to leave the EU, not Europe.

I also agree with pp who said that the EU and Europe are completely different things and many people talk about them as if they are one and the same.

We do have very different experiences then. I know a tiny handful of Brexiteers (DH's grandmother and aunt and that's about it) but the overwhelming impression I have of the national debate was of it being the leave side who conflated Europe and the EU and which, I think, would be pissed off to be reminded we are still European. Anything I can do to contribute to the that pissed offness I do with gusto.

[AlexaShutUp]

*AlexaShutUp

We may have gone to the same school!

I 0

Was your school uniform inspired by the European colours, FifilaFrog?

Yes it was!

Must be the same one! Well, I can't say that I'm at all surprised to see another person from that school on one of these threads! May I ask when you were there? (I left in 1991)

[QuentinInQuarantino]

Because I live abroad and don't want my neighbours to assume I in any way agree with it.

Because I can no longer bring my British children up in Britain unless we leave their father behind.

Because it's an identity I've always appreciated, and I want to emphasize that appreciation in the face of such destructive rhetoric coming from many of my countrymen.

[MrsBrunch]

I'm saying it because it is comforting to me to point out that dragging me out of the EU doesn't mean I don't get to call myself European anymore. And there are is a massive crowd of people who don't like that, who want Brexit to mean we aren't European anymore

That's not my experience so maybe that's why we are looking at this from different angles. The people I know who voted leave only wanted to leave the EU, not Europe.

I also agree with pp who said that the EU and Europe are completely different things and many people talk about them as if they are one and the same.

[cantdothisnow1]

What did you feel, about being an EU memberstate, disadvantaged you on every level , Haggertyjane ?

Genuine question.

[Fifilafrog]

@AlexaShutUp

We may have gone to the same school!

I wonder! Was your school uniform inspired by the European colours, FifilaFrog?

Yes it was! 😁

[Fifilafrog]

[quote Haggertyjane]@Fifilafrog And don't you have anything new to say? Rather than moaning about your rights being ripped away from you maybe consider the rights of the leavers who were forced to endure an unfair system that they felt disadvantaged them on many levels?

On the other hand, don't stop moaning, you obviously enjoy fuelling your anger issues. [/quote]
The "rights leavers were forced to endure"?? That doesn't even make sense 😂

I have outlined earlier in this thread why I am angry (and have every right to be).

The op asked why people were changing their Facebook posts. I have an answer.

It's an emotional issue and I am allowed to be angry. I'm not sorry you don't like it 🤷🏻‍♀️

[MeringueCloud]

@DappledThings

So saying things like "I am still European" to show that you wish that the UK was still in the EU doesn't make any sense. Just use a different word.
I'm not. I'm saying it because it is comforting to me to point out that dragging me out of the EU doesn't mean I don't get to call myself European anymore. And there are is a massive crowd of people who don't like that, who want Brexit to mean we aren't European anymore, who seek to make British patriotism the only feeling of cultural pride acceptable. I'm saying Still European to them to say a big fuck off to that. It's saying that whatever Brexit does I am still culturally European and no referendum changes that.

I do wish I was still in the EU. Stating that despite Brexit I am still European is a crumb of comfort.

I see what you mean

[AlexaShutUp]

There are 44 countries in Europe. There are 27 countries in the EU. So I don't think that I am pedantic to point out that calling the using the terms EU and Europe interchangeably is not correct. So saying things like "I am still European" to show that you wish that the UK was still in the EU doesn't make any sense. Just use a different word.

This is getting boring now, MeringueCloud. We know that there are other European countries which are not in the EU. We know that the terms are not interchangeable. We also know that our relationship with the vast majority of European countries has fundamentally changed. Consequently, it makes perfect sense to say that our relationship with Europe has changed, even if there is a small number of countries where that does not apply. Only a pedant would try to argue otherwise.

Personally, I deeply regret the way in which our relationship with Europe has changed as a result of us leaving the EU, and I am sad that my rights have been taken from me. The Brexiteers cannot, however, take from me my sense of cultural affinity with Europe. I am, and always will be European.And one day, I hope that I will again be a citizen of the EU.

[VinterKvinna]

@cyclingmad

Well considering remainers like to always stay how leavers are stupid idiots, well look who is the idiot now by doing that. Honestly what stupid thing to do.

Really you can tell if someone was leave or stay by these posts?
I'm guessing you are a leaver?

[DappledThings]

So saying things like "I am still European" to show that you wish that the UK was still in the EU doesn't make any sense. Just use a different word.
I'm not. I'm saying it because it is comforting to me to point out that dragging me out of the EU doesn't mean I don't get to call myself European anymore. And there are is a massive crowd of people who don't like that, who want Brexit to mean we aren't European anymore, who seek to make British patriotism the only feeling of cultural pride acceptable. I'm saying Still European to them to say a big fuck off to that. It's saying that whatever Brexit does I am still culturally European and no referendum changes that.

I do wish I was still in the EU. Stating that despite Brexit I am still European is a crumb of comfort.

[borntohula]

Basically, it's aimed at everyone who voted Leave for silly reasons. FB is a draining place.

[MeringueCloud]

There are 44 countries in Europe. There are 27 countries in the EU. So I don't think that I am pedantic to point out that calling the using the terms EU and Europe interchangeably is not correct. So saying things like "I am still European" to show that you wish that the UK was still in the EU doesn't make any sense. Just use a different word.

[Haggertyjane]

@Fifilafrog And don't you have anything new to say? Rather than moaning about your rights being ripped away from you maybe consider the rights of the leavers who were forced to endure an unfair system that they felt disadvantaged them on many levels?

On the other hand, don't stop moaning, you obviously enjoy fuelling your anger issues.

[RichardMarxisinnocent]

@eurochick

What a disingenuous pile of shyte.

Like many, I am sad that my EU rights have been ripped from me. I still identify with the EU. I wish I was still an EU citizen, but I am not. Because of the choices of others.

This

[AlexaShutUp]

We may have gone to the same school!

I wonder! Was your school uniform inspired by the European colours, FifilaFrog?

[cantdothisnow1]

@Haggertyjane

Remainers think they have some kind of moral and intellectual superiority over leavers, and they like to signal this on social media as a badge of honour.

Good luck to them

Actually no.

I put this on my facebook profile picture for a very different reason.

I was fortunate to take part in the Erasmus scheme in the 1990s and am in touch with many friends that I made from all over Europe on Facebook.

For me it is a sign of solidarity that the decision to leave the EU was not in my name.

I have always felt European and being a member state gave me more rights than I now have because I don't have the fortune of family ties to take up a EU passport.

I don't think leave voters are thick or stupid they just simply don't care about those things.

[Fifilafrog]

@AlexaShutUp

It's interesting you should say that, because I've never really felt that way. I've never felt like a European per se. We know far more about the politics of the USA than we do about the politics and political leaders of countries in Europe, for instance.

I was lucky enough as a teenager to go on lots of school trips to European countries, and I was taught to think of myself as a European from an early age. However, the most European I ever felt was when I lived abroad, and I was thrown together en masse with a large number of Americans, Canadians, Australians and Europeans. I realised then how much closer I felt culturally to the other Europeans than to the others, especially the North Americans.

We may have gone to the same school!