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Covid and new job

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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 04:14

I started a new job last Thursday. Small family business with around 8 staff including the owner directors.

During the day my adult son who I live with developed covid symptoms, took an LFT and had a positive result. I am double vaccinated so I had no duty to tell my employers but I did anyway as I thought that was the "right" thing to do. I was immediately sent home and asked not to come in the next day.

I have pre booked holiday this week so I was never supposed to be in this week anyway.

On Friday I developed symptoms and a PCR has shown both my son and I are positive.

I have kept my employer informed.

I hadn't received a contract of employment.

Pay day is today and no funds have hit my account for the day I worked.

Now I understand that they don't want to admit I am employee yet so they don't have to pay me ssp should the virus cause me long term effects. On the other hand it feels a bit nasty that from the get go, they are trying to not look after me.

Opinions please?

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SalsaLove · 30/11/2021 04:22

If you haven’t received a contract yet then you might not have been put on their payroll. You have an extremely negative view of them and their actions, with little evidence to back it up.

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GiltEdges · 30/11/2021 04:26

@SalsaLove

If you haven’t received a contract yet then you might not have been put on their payroll. You have an extremely negative view of them and their actions, with little evidence to back it up.

This. Why instantly jump to assuming the worst of them? Companies claim SSP back, so your argument also makes little sense.
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Michellebops · 30/11/2021 04:34

So you have technically been employed 4 days and expecting a wage yesterday for 1 day worked.
Was that agreed?
Most companies would need time to process a payroll and get at least a week in lieu

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Glittertwins · 30/11/2021 04:36

I'd be very surprised if you'd been paid within 4 days of starting a new job. Payroll would have been submitted at least a week before. It will be rolled into the December run.

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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 04:36

I was put on the payroll as I did it myself with the boss (on that first day part of my role).

I assume the payroll people (accountants) were then advised by the owner to take me off after they sent me home.

I've tried to protect them and their business.

Like I say, I do understand as they don't know me yet. Hopefully I'll be back to work next week and everything will be fine.

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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 04:40

Just to clarify, the payroll was submitted on Thursday for payment on the last working day of the month.

Had I kept my head down and gone into work on Friday and not told them about my son, they would have paid me.

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Michellebops · 30/11/2021 05:29

I don't know where you're based and the rules etc but if you were to go into work knowing your son has a positive lft and awaiting a pcr result you wouldn't have been employed much longer.

In fact you shouldn't have completed your shift on the Thursday

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Michellebops · 30/11/2021 05:30

Just reread it, your employer did the right thing by sending you home, so you might not be
Entitled to a full days pay

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Ilikewinter · 30/11/2021 05:33

OP is double vaccinated which means she doesnt need to self isolate - (in England.).

The way to resolve this surely is to call your employer and ask them?

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Michellebops · 30/11/2021 06:25

Aah ok, I'm Scotland where the rules are everyone in household must isolate immediately and book pcr tests.

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AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 30/11/2021 06:41

Have you given any indication that you won't be going back, I don't see why you think they've deleted you from the payroll. Isn't it more likely that they will pay you the day next month when they have more clarity on what you're worked.

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Mamadothehump · 30/11/2021 08:28

@Ilikewinter

OP is double vaccinated which means she doesnt need to self isolate - (in England.).

The way to resolve this surely is to call your employer and ask them?

OP had a positive LFT result. Of course she needed to self isolate!!!!
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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 08:48

I didn't have a positive PCR result until Sunday and my son had his result on Saturday. We are both in England.

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Brightlightbulb · 30/11/2021 08:51

@Michellebops

I don't know where you're based and the rules etc but if you were to go into work knowing your son has a positive lft and awaiting a pcr result you wouldn't have been employed much longer.

In fact you shouldn't have completed your shift on the Thursday

I didn't complete my shift on Thursday. I told them about my son the moment he told me.

I couldn't have told them any earlier.
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Aprilx · 30/11/2021 09:20

No her son had a positive LFT initially, not OP.

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Glittertwins · 30/11/2021 09:22

Call them to find out. No point in second guessing.

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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 11:01

So boss has confirmed she's leaving me off the payroll until next month and will start my contract from then.

So, hopefully I'll be back at work on Monday.

If I'm not and suffer long term effects of covid, obviously I can't claim SSP. Am I entitled to anything else?

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GiltEdges · 30/11/2021 11:41

@TheRedHen2

So boss has confirmed she's leaving me off the payroll until next month and will start my contract from then.

So, hopefully I'll be back at work on Monday.

If I'm not and suffer long term effects of covid, obviously I can't claim SSP. Am I entitled to anything else?

But has it been clarified whether or not your pay for last Thursday will be included in next months's payroll? Because if it is, that's tacit acknowledgment that you were infact employed from last Thursday and to deny you your basic rights as an employee e.g. SSP would be illegal. Likewise if they were to falsify your contract to suggest you started working for them at a later date than you actually did. Doesn't seem like the kind of company I'd want to work for; they're either incompetent or deliberately manipulating the system.
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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 12:13

Yes, they've said they'll pay me next month for the hours on my first day.

And do my contract to start from next month.

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Smurf123 · 30/11/2021 12:25

Surely you can't go back to work until Wednesday if you tested positive on Sunday then your day 10 is Tuesday so back at work Wednesday.

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TheRedHen2 · 30/11/2021 12:33

Isolation is from when you had symptoms.

My (very mild) symptoms came on Thursday night. I stayed at home Friday with a bit of a headache but could easily have worked, got a very faint LFT positive line on Friday evening and had a PCR test first thing Saturday morning. If my son hadn't tested positive first I'd have had no idea.

I have no regrets in telling my employers as it's important for me to do the right thing and I don't blame them for sending me home.

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Glittertwins · 30/11/2021 14:43

No idea on that one but good luck with the job restart!

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