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Powergower Wed 10-Jun-20 10:14:03

Our secondary asked for feedback to the rse curriculum they want to roll out in Sept. I used info from mumsnet and the safe schools alliance to ask questions about how the issue of gender identity would be taught and to confirm if there would be any conflicts with biology lessons.

It took me all day to write my response, I kept writing them deleting then re-writing. It's so exhausting walking on eggshells, advocating for women and girls rights, being gc, trying not make sure you don't alienate people, trying to guess whether the school will be supportive etc etc. I've found personally that when 'outing myself as gc it's my female friends and colleagues who bite back the most in support of the twaw debate. It's like living in a parallel fucking universe.

Has anyone questioned their schools RSE curriculum?

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DogFluff Sun 12-Jul-20 13:13:34

Hi @Powergower
i cant believe there are no responses here. I was just about to write pretty much the same post as yours but thought i would check for others first.
I'm trying to put my letter to school together and as you say it is so difficult working out what to include and what to leave for later.
I have already emailed my DDs school with a couple of questions, they responded but are not happy. They have said they will answer questions but will not be making any changes (which can't be legal!?)
What has your experience been like so far?

CheeryTreeBlossom Sun 12-Jul-20 13:41:16

I have a family member who is a teacher and newly alerted (by me!) to these issues.
As a result of me enquiring what the school was doing she asked to see the materials and was pretty horrified at the misinformation in there - e.g. we shouldn't have "cis pride" because c** people have never had to fight for their rights. Yes, let's just ignore the civil rights movement, suffragettes, campaign for gay marriage etc etc. confused
There was a lot of assigned at birth and 'most oppressed ever' language. She asked them to correct some of it but doesn't want to raise her head too much because she is afraid of the v woke management and her career.
In the end it's just the materials they provide, she actually has to teach it and will ensure she doesn't contribute to the misinformation. Hence I want to highlight it's not just the materials that matter, but also the messaging from the teacher. It's worth talking to them about it.

DogFluff Sun 12-Jul-20 13:55:38

Yes I agree. I have contacted the RSE lead and from their response they do not have the same opinion as your family member unfortunately. They claim to have consulted many "experts" but only came up with the one name: Stonewall. Who we know are not experts on anything but a political lobby group.
So I am up against it with my DDs school.
The RSE lead seems to think she is an expert too because she has been trained by Stonewall!

wellbehavedwomen Sun 12-Jul-20 13:55:50

I spoke to my son's teacher, and she was 100% on board.

I think far more teachers are aware and on board than not.

wellbehavedwomen Sun 12-Jul-20 13:56:58

DogFluff

Yes I agree. I have contacted the RSE lead and from their response they do not have the same opinion as your family member unfortunately. They claim to have consulted many "experts" but only came up with the one name: Stonewall. Who we know are not experts on anything but a political lobby group.
So I am up against it with my DDs school.
The RSE lead seems to think she is an expert too because she has been trained by Stonewall!

Oh that's terrible. Really sorry to hear that.

Stonewall still have the halo effect from their work for gay equality. People really don't know how poorly evidenced, and biased, their work is now.

DogFluff Sun 12-Jul-20 14:07:37

My DDs school only shared their RSE policy on Thursday (9th July) leaving parents with hardly any time to consult/engage etc.
It is a girls' secondary school.
I am hoping more parents question the lesson material examples they shared with us.
The school are choosing to go above and beyond the statutory elements of the DfE guidelines concerning the transgender content. They will be teaching assigned at birth, cis-gender, pronoun use etc
The school have chosen to add "gender" as a protected characteristic on their policies, they have excluded sex!

DogFluff Sun 12-Jul-20 14:08:54

In a single sex girls' school!!

CheeryTreeBlossom Sun 12-Jul-20 14:19:12

What about your child's teacher? At least in my relative's school the RSE lead writes/coordinates the material but each tutor delivers the lesson to their own form group during PSHE lessons.
So while the RSE team is very keen the individual teachers are not so.

DogFluff Sun 12-Jul-20 14:38:11

@CheeryTreeBlossom I don't know about any other teachers yet, hopefully there are some that have not yet been Stonewalled.
We have been given a dedicated email address to send any questions to and they are all answered by the RSE lead. I'll ask the school who will be teaching this.

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