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Corbyn worked for TV channel that advocated marital rape!

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jacobssarah631 Mon 02-Dec-19 16:22:15

I just saw this on Twitter (https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/1201534266724769792) and its totally outrageous. I'm no fan of Boris, especially when it comes to women, but this is another level.

JeffreyJefferson Mon 02-Dec-19 16:26:28

ffs

PuppyStuff Mon 02-Dec-19 16:28:19

Does that mean he advocates it?

Does appearing on the BBC mean you agree and support famous paedophiles and historic sex abuse? hmm

nicslackey Mon 02-Dec-19 16:29:48

I second ffs. Btw, I have posted on here in the past so must by association be responsible for every crackpot comment of which I include yours. Christ on a bike

JeffreyJefferson Mon 02-Dec-19 16:30:58

Exactly what Puppy said. Stop looking for things to put Corbyn down for ffs

MumofTinies Mon 02-Dec-19 16:31:22

I worked for a company that paid women less then men so they could 'save up for thier maternity leave' does this mean I'm an advocate for the gender pay gap?

GameofPhones Mon 02-Dec-19 16:31:23

Blimey how desperate can his opponents get?

iklboodolphrednosedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 16:32:12

Jesus fucking Christ. What next? Corbyn lives on same planet as Hitler did?

andyoldlabour Mon 02-Dec-19 16:33:41

It originated here. Corbyn never worked for them, he made a couple of appearances.

twitter.com/TheGolem_/status/1201508556203270146

I suppose using the same line of thought, anyone who has appeared on the BBC is a supporter of child abuse simply because Jimmy Saville worked for them?

andyoldlabour Mon 02-Dec-19 16:34:49

PuppyStuff

Apologies for saying the same thing.

MonChatEstMagnifique Mon 02-Dec-19 16:35:36

🙄 Yawn.

jacobssarah631 Mon 02-Dec-19 16:37:18

The replies to this are scary. From what I read the channel got in trouble with ofcom for programmes that said violence against women and marital rape are fine. I would never appear on a channel that promoted such things, so why is it ok for our next pm to do so?

ThisIsSunrise Mon 02-Dec-19 16:40:34

Jacob R-M is that you?

Get a grip. FFS.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 16:41:23

so why is it ok for our next pm to do so

Awesome optimism there

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 16:43:22

Interesting first post as well

Or did you name change because you were a bit worried about words on a screen

My usual disclaimer follows....i am not and never have been a labour voter or corbyn fan

MockersFactCheckMN Mon 02-Dec-19 16:44:06

I look forward to the same scrutiny of anyone who has written for the Pro-Nazi Daily Mail.

onalongsabbatical Mon 02-Dec-19 16:44:19

BBC covered up Saville. All politicians have been on the BBC. Therefore none can be elected - by your own logic, OP. You do know this is perfectly infantile, don't you?

Doggodogington Mon 02-Dec-19 16:50:56

Pathetic attempt. 0/10 for effort, that’s for you OP and Boris for tweeting it.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 16:52:04

Oooh Ooohh onalong

This is like 7 degrees of kevin bacon isnt it

Do some more!!!

sellthesizzle Mon 02-Dec-19 17:19:56

Was he appearing to advocate rape etc or was he presenting a different view on that or even on something else?

You sounds like you are reacting to a sound bite so I'd suggest you do some research before deciding your view.

BIWI Mon 02-Dec-19 17:22:50

Welcome to Mumsnet @jacobssarah631. So glad you popped by with this bit of absolute complete bollocks.

iklboodolphrednosedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 17:23:08

@RufusthebewiIderedreindeer - I can six degrees myself with Kevin Bacon wink

SimonJT Mon 02-Dec-19 17:24:57

@jacobssarah631 By your reasoning if you have ever watched/listened to anything made by the BBC or paid for a TV license then you have personally funded paedophiles.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Mon 02-Dec-19 17:26:23

Oh nice one reindeer

grin

Practicalmagico Mon 02-Dec-19 17:26:37

Does that mean he advocates it?

Does appearing on the BBC mean you agree and support famous paedophiles and historic sex abuse?

Does being friends with Jeffrey Epstein automatically make you a paedophile?

Frenchw1fe Mon 02-Dec-19 17:43:56

Would you like a shovel to scrape that barrel with?

InfiniteSheldon Mon 02-Dec-19 19:08:44

I'm with you OP he is a misogynist through and through if any other leader had done half the things he'd done they would be crucified by the media.

Qcng Mon 02-Dec-19 19:20:24

Lol Corbyn is the most crucified-by-the-media politician there has ever been.

InfiniteSheldon Mon 02-Dec-19 19:25:20

Seriously he isn't the BBC practically worship him and Channel 4 actually does with Sky news vying for top Cirbyn handmaiden award. If Boris had worked for a racist, sexist rape supporting organisation do you really think that the BBC et Al would ignore it?

Qcng Mon 02-Dec-19 19:35:36

Practically worship him 😂

They've produced more hatchet jobs on Corbyn than any other politician

StrangeLookingParasite Mon 02-Dec-19 19:43:52

Seriously he isn't the BBC practically worship him

I think you have him confused with Johnson, at least two of whose gaffes they attempted to cover up.
I have no dog in this fight at all, I don't live in the UK, and couldn't vote even if I did, but the bias is absolutely clear.

stumbledin Mon 02-Dec-19 19:45:14

Surely the twitter name makes it clear what the intent of the account is.

It may seem more classy but judging Corbyn on the basis of Times reports is as reliable as judging him by the Daily Mail.

For a few sundays I bought the Times to support their reporting on women's sex based rights, but the tone of the paper and their sneering, condescending reporting of anything vaguely liberal let alone left is depressing.

And I say this as someone who isn't aligned to any party, but have this quaint old fashioned idea that news coverage should be factual and balanced.

thehorseandhisboy Mon 02-Dec-19 19:50:52

Johnson actually committed domestic abuse.

Care to comment on that?

stumbledin Mon 02-Dec-19 19:55:33

If Boris had worked for a racist, sexist rape supporting organisation do you really think that the BBC et Al would ignore it?

The point is the media has consistently not reported on Boris f*ck ups unless they make a funny story about what a good bloke he is. Like Farage, they all just lap up the posh guy who is good for a laugh.

No other politicians would have got as far as both of these two imposters had without the collusion of the mainly male blokes in the media. In fact it is so blatant that one male journalist wrote about how awful it was that they had never held him to account during his so called political career and now here he was as PM! But he obviously thought it was still just a bit of a laugh.

Compared say to TM, who I am no supporter of, but became PM because Boris ran away knowing it would be hard work. The vitriol she got from both male and female reporters was just astonishing.

And the reality is, when you strip away the fantasy about Brexit her deal was probably the one that was somewhere in the middle given how close the referendum vote was, and that she was negotiating with 27 other countries. Who have said the new deal that Boris has said he negotiated in a matter of hours is basically TM's deal with a few alterations. But the reporting makes it sound like he has slain the european dragon as though he were St George himself.

The only good part about the media onslaught against JC is that when they did this in the last election it actually upped the number of Labour votes.

InfiniteSheldon Mon 02-Dec-19 19:55:44

No this is a Cirbyn thread your whatabouterry doesn't change the premuse: Cirbyn is a misogynist

InfiniteSheldon Mon 02-Dec-19 19:56:36

It appears my 'o' s are faulty

Blossie0 Mon 02-Dec-19 19:58:48

Yawn!

BarbaraStrozzi Mon 02-Dec-19 20:23:03

Now, Corbyn is the number one reason I'm not voting Labour, but even I think you're talking shite on this one OP. Like others have said, are you going to villify any politician who's ever appeared on the BBC because of Savile, Harris, Hall, etc? Are you going to villify any politician who's appeared in the same shot as Randy Andy at an official function?

Cam77 Mon 02-Dec-19 20:23:59

As smear stories go that isn’t scraping the barrel. That has burned straight through the barrel and is now burning up the earths core before shooting off to the other side of the galaxy at 0.9 the speed of light.

wafflyversatile Mon 02-Dec-19 20:28:07

Now that plastic straws are forbidden you're reduced to grasping at invisible ones.

fikel Mon 02-Dec-19 20:28:25

This man is to blame for absolutely everything
He was at the scene of the fire of London
He used to be called Judas and did his mate, Jesus over
He helped build the Berlin Wall
Responsible for the sinking of The Titanic........

Shehz21 Mon 02-Dec-19 20:32:02

biscuit

MockersFactCheckMN Mon 02-Dec-19 20:34:09

If Boris had worked for a racist, sexist rape supporting organisation...

The Spectator has its moments.

Nessaofbarry Mon 02-Dec-19 20:38:28

Johnson actually committed domestic abuse
Eh? When?

lady69 Mon 02-Dec-19 20:58:15

Corbyn is very good at smearing himself without anyone here having to bother. His is the party of Men as women’s officer, pro self ID and amending the equalities act to the detriment of women. But vote for him if you seek those things out.

Qcng Mon 02-Dec-19 21:42:42

Eh? When?

How did you miss that news story?

The Independent

Qcng Mon 02-Dec-19 21:47:42

Lady69 I'm willing to set aside the risk of a few spotty male teenagers taking women's officer position for the bigger picture like nationalised rail services, rent control etc.

The tra thing has infiltrated all political parties. Women need to form cross-party to address it.

lady69 Mon 02-Dec-19 21:52:10

I’m not. It’s why i am on these boards. Women’s rights is my main concern.

Nessaofbarry Mon 02-Dec-19 21:52:36

Boris didn’t ‘commit domestic abuse’. He and his girlfriend had a row. Other than that, there’s absolutely no evidence that he is an abusive partner. The police didn’t take any action, his girlfriend is still living with him, chances are it was just a spat that got a bit too heated. Maybe she was the one who was abusing him?
God, DH and I have blazing rows- does that mean we’re abusive to one another?

You can’t just say outright that someone is an abuser when no police action was taken and when you don’t know the circumstances. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 22:15:26

Other than that, there’s absolutely no evidence that he is an abusive partner.

Loads of undeniable evidence that he is a monumental shit.

I think our standards for PMs should be higher than "no evidence of domestic abuse".

Nessaofbarry Mon 02-Dec-19 22:38:59

Loads of undeniable evidence that he is a monumental shit
Perhaps but that wasn’t the issue here.

I think our standards for PMs should be higher than "no evidence of domestic abuse
I never said that it should be. He shouldn’t be congratulated for NOT being an abuser. I just think it’s wrong to accuse someone and speak as though they are an abuser when there’s been no conviction or investigation.

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 22:45:45

Like others have said, are you going to villify any politician who's ever appeared on the BBC

He didn't just appear on a TV channel. He was paid £20,000 to appear on Press TV the state TV channel of Iran, a country that, among other things, won't allow a woman to get a passport without permission from her father or husband.

Press TV doesn't pay politicians like Corbyn for their insight and knowledge. They are just useful idiots who who are happy to spout at length about the evils of America and the West.

I don't think he is an advocate for marital rape, but, as with Boris, I think his actions and character are not those of a potential PM.

Bluerussian Mon 02-Dec-19 22:51:14

Practicalmagico Mon 02-Dec-19 17:26:37
Does that mean he advocates it?

Does appearing on the BBC mean you agree and support famous paedophiles and historic sex abuse?

Does being friends with Jeffrey Epstein automatically make you a paedophile?
.........

Well put! A resounding, "No", to all three questions.

Corbyn probably didn't know anyway. I'd never heard of it until now (not that that means much).

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 23:06:27

Corbyn probably didn't know anyway.

This isn't the only dodgy TV channel he has appeared on. He has made quite a habit of it.

However, just to show how fucked we are, Boris Johnson criticised Corbyn for appearing on Russia Today shortly after his own father was interviewed on the channel.

We are doomed.

DoctorTwo Mon 02-Dec-19 23:10:26

Oh, he appeared on PressTV, which is banned in the UK by Ofcom. You're right, we should vote for the serial liar Boris Johnson's Tory party so we can all become poorer.

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 23:17:42

You're right, we should vote for the serial liar Boris Johnson's Tory party so we can all become poorer.

He didn't just appear on Press TV. Essentially he was paid to participate in propaganda for Press TV.

You're right, we should vote for the serial liar Boris Johnson's Tory party so we can all become poorer.

I don't think this thread has changed anyone's voting plans, but at the moment it seems likely that the UK would rather vote for a serial liar and absolute shit than Corbyn. At some point the Labour Party has to recognise that that might have something to do with Corbyn. Other Labour MPs are available.

Birdsfoottrefoil Mon 02-Dec-19 23:21:31

Other than just a few exceptions, pretty much any other labour MP would probably have walked this election.

Velveteenfruitbowl Mon 02-Dec-19 23:26:21

Do you know what he actually did on said channel? Maybe he was arguing against the acceptance of marital rape?

TheMarzipanDildo Mon 02-Dec-19 23:31:03

Anyone read that old Boris article about “controlling your woman” and how single mothers are a scourge on society? Now that was grim.

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 23:35:36

Maybe he was arguing against the acceptance of marital rape?

Yes that must be why they asked him on - to promote debate. confused

Goosefoot Mon 02-Dec-19 23:37:58

Uh, not everyone believes that appearing on tv channel, or in a magazine or newspaper, or with an interviewer, who advocates or believes in things you think are wrong, is always a problem. For some of us political figures being willing to engage with all kinds of people, both at home and abroad, is not only ok, but desirable.

Seriously, I would not think the leaders of Saudi Arabia, or China, or any other place were somehow undermining their own views because they appeared on some western tv station.

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 23:41:52

Seriously, I would not think the leaders of Saudi Arabia, or China, or any other place were somehow undermining their own views because they appeared on some western tv station.

Iran and Russia are countries where journalists are imprisoned and killed. They really, really don't invite western politicians onto their state tv channels to widen the debate.

stumbledin Mon 02-Dec-19 23:45:21

The allegations of domestic violence date back to his first marriage, but she has always remained silent having agreed to a quick divorce as the woman who became his second wife was pregnant. And she (the second wife) was fighting cancer at the time Johnson started divorce proceedings against her earlier this year. Though on reflection it may well have been better for her to have him out of the way.

And then of course there is the problem of him not even knowing how many children he has.

What is so strange about the red scare stories against Corbyn is in fact if people are worried about some proletarian republic they need to worry about John McDonnell who is the organiser and political mastermind. Corbyn is a romantic socialist. But his purist statements are the sweet talk idealists want to hear. That would be quite a joke. Labour wins. Corbyn says all this politicking is no fun, I'm off, and in steps McDonnell. Meanwhile Corbyn joins elder brother Piers and they denounce the climate catastrophe movement as a capitalist plot to re-assign resources to government controlled businesses! metro.co.uk/2019/06/21/jeremy-corbyns-brother-claims-man-made-climate-change-not-exist-10025291/

Goosefoot Mon 02-Dec-19 23:58:05

Iran and Russia are countries where journalists are imprisoned and killed. They really, really don't invite western politicians onto their state tv channels to widen the debate.

If a political figure thinks appearing on a news show in such a place will be misused, then it's reasonable to refuse. I don't expect that it's always easy to be sure, other than by looking at the record of how they deal with those kinds of interviews and making a best guess.
It's still part of the job of such people to interact with the media, including sometimes the media of nations with very different views on both freedom of the press and other issues.
It's really irrelevant whether at some other time that news channel has advocated marital rape, or anything else really. The idea that appearing on such a channel means the individual is happy with everything they support is bizarre.

boatyardblues Tue 03-Dec-19 07:30:24

I eyerolled when I saw this pathetic attempt at smearing, but I’m pleased to see FWR are having none of it. They must be confusing MN with a different site, one full of numpties.

donquixotedelamancha Tue 03-Dec-19 07:44:55

I would never appear on a channel that promoted such things, so why is it ok for our next pm to do so?

So you are famous and do TV interviews, but before each one you check all prior content from that chanel, then you don't appear if you have any disagreement with their output?

They must be confusing MN with a different site, one full of numpties.

The Tory spammers are shit aren't they? There are loads of things you could legitimately bash Corbyn for which would fly here, but they choose this.

TheProdigalKittensReturn Tue 03-Dec-19 07:52:16

However, just to show how fucked we are, Boris Johnson criticised Corbyn for appearing on Russia Today shortly after his own father was interviewed on the channel.

We are doomed.

I mean, I'm not feeling exactly upbeat about the current choice of candidates, but isn't this pretty much a standard example of "how do you know Boris is lying? his lips are moving"?

Birdsfoottrefoil Tue 03-Dec-19 08:44:55

I have no fondness for Boris but he is not his father.

deydododatdodontdeydo Tue 03-Dec-19 09:11:41

This is desperate.

merrymouse Tue 03-Dec-19 09:14:12

I have no fondness for Boris but he is not his father.

The point is not whether Stanley Johnson should have appeared on Russia Today, but that Boris Johnson clearly couldn't care less who appears on Russia Today as long as it isn't Corbyn.

Flowersonthewall Tue 03-Dec-19 09:14:46

Corbyn lives in country that allows 135 000 children to be homeless
Corbyn works in the same building as a racist misogynist
🤔

wrongsideofhistorymyarse Tue 03-Dec-19 09:25:41

I don't even like Corbyn and can recognise this as a smear.

Be better, OP.

Birdsfoottrefoil Tue 03-Dec-19 09:39:07

The point is not whether Stanley Johnson should have appeared on Russia Today, but that Boris Johnson clearly couldn't care less who appears on Russia Today as long as it isn't Corbyn

Well obviously it is political point scoring, but Corbyn is a politician who hopes to be PM and run the country so it matters rather more who he promotes than Joe Bloggs or Stanley Johnson.

MockersFactCheckMN Tue 03-Dec-19 09:40:54

The things he says

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-offensive-comments-women-20982938

merrymouse Tue 03-Dec-19 10:07:03

Well obviously it is political point scoring, but Corbyn is a politician who hopes to be PM and run the country so it matters rather more who he promotes than Joe Bloggs or Stanley Johnson.

Yes, but that there is nothing more to Boris Johnson than political point scoring. I don't care what Stanley Johnson does, but he isn't my father. If appearing on Russia Today makes Corbyn Stalin (rather than an inept back bencher who has been promoted above his competence level), it's unclear why Stanley Johnson is still such a visible part of the Boris show.

Notabadger Tue 03-Dec-19 10:31:12

Well if you are concerned about the history of marital rape in the UK, here is a link to the early day motion in 1990 that resulted in it (finally) getting made illegal. As you can see Jeremy Corbyn was a signatory so it is crazy to suggest he was not bothered by this.
(Johnson not an MP at that point)

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/3932

Notabadger Tue 03-Dec-19 10:45:11

Sorry actually I think it was a House of Lords ruling that made it illegal. Not that you are probably interested in that OP

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