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Why is Paris Lees speaking at Mumsnet and are MN seeking Spartacus tees?

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FRETGNIKCUF Tue 08-Nov-16 13:02:08

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FRETGNIKCUF Tue 08-Nov-16 13:42:35


QueenoftheAndals Tue 08-Nov-16 13:48:35

Probably so Paris can tell us how we're doing womanhood all wrong and how we should all be oh so flattered by street harassment...

CantReadMyPokerFace Tue 08-Nov-16 13:51:05

You have got to be kidding???

RiverTam Tue 08-Nov-16 13:51:49

You are joking, aren't you? Paris fucking Lees?

QueenoftheAndals Tue 08-Nov-16 13:53:56

It's no joke

hoddtastic Tue 08-Nov-16 13:55:19

i would be interested to know what basis you have booked this person too?

Duckyneedsaclean Tue 08-Nov-16 13:58:22

Yeah, that'll go down well.

glenthebattleostrich Tue 08-Nov-16 13:58:59


Bardolino Tue 08-Nov-16 13:59:38

This is either MNHQ trying to prove how not-transphobic they are (I.e., balancing out all the supposedly transphobic threads), or its MNHQ sticking 2 fingers up to all of us Spartacus types.

Other than those meaningless gestures, what exactly does Paris Lees bring to the party?

Sabistick Tue 08-Nov-16 14:00:49

I would be interested to discover who aproached who for this booking.

RiverTam Tue 08-Nov-16 14:01:21

I've reported the thread so hopefully someone will come on to explain why a person with a vested interest in throwing women under the bus has been invited to speak at what will be a predominately female event. It's beyond crass.

ageingrunner Tue 08-Nov-16 14:02:53

If Paris wasn't trans, would you be booking her MNHQ? What has she got to say? Apart from how great being cat called is 😳

MrsTerryPratchett Tue 08-Nov-16 14:07:49

Part of Mumsnet's community service?

MorrisZapp Tue 08-Nov-16 14:10:07




teenyveg Tue 08-Nov-16 14:12:31


NauticalDisaster Tue 08-Nov-16 14:12:52

You are fucking shitting me! Come on, MNHQ, how is this not a fuck you to us? You do know Paris promotes sexual harassment on the streets, don't you? Something about validating the fact that Paris likes to present as female. That doesn't seem to be very in line with MN values.

FRETGNIKCUF Tue 08-Nov-16 14:24:50

Let's remind ourselves of some of her amazing writing:

Last summer I went to Ibiza, where I was catcalled, sexually objectified and treated like a piece of meat by men the entire week. And it was absolutely awesome.

is catcalling always harassment?

It’s part of a culture that infantilises women and teaches them to be constantly afraid. I wasn’t brought up that way and I don’t feel frightened when some spunky dude comes and talks to me. (^I think you've been brought up a boy though Paris^)

Did I tell you about that time your dad bent me over and gave me the big daddy D? I was basically a big prostitute back in the day and entertained various strangers for coin, including your pop.

The voices of the "wrong sort" of women – black women, trans women, sex workers and so on – did she really put black women in the same "other" as sex workers and transwomen?

She really is a literary giant and a great asset to womanhood. Makes you wonder what amazing women were left off the platform to make way for Paris Less than a woman.

BeyondReasonablyDoubts Tue 08-Nov-16 14:25:27

Wtaf?! shock

I would love to hear the reasoning behind this.

FRETGNIKCUF Tue 08-Nov-16 14:26:16

I for one would like to see Paris Less no platformed for speaking too slowly about absolute shit.

Cockblocktopus Tue 08-Nov-16 14:27:18


hoddtastic Tue 08-Nov-16 14:27:18

i got it! MNHQ are actually trolling us now. This is some weird experiment of some sort isn't it?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed Tue 08-Nov-16 14:28:49

Yes, I'd be interested to know what Paris 'I Love to be Catcalled' Lees brings to any event specifically aimed at women.

TheJiminyConjecture Tue 08-Nov-16 14:29:38

What the fuck?

Chewingthecrud Tue 08-Nov-16 14:33:22

actually mumsnet how fucking dare you?

How the hell is this in line with your values for promoting positive discussion between women?

I'm genuinely really upset about this.
Am looking forward to the HQ explanation.

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