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Sean Bean, pleased Jeremy Corbyn is sticking up for the working-class Man!

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howtorebuild · 03/11/2015 09:09

m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8458782

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howtorebuild · 03/11/2015 09:09
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TheLynchpin · 05/11/2015 11:53

Briefly had a read of the article - it doesn't seem to say much more than what's in the title of your thread.

Do you know what it is exactly that Corbyn has done for Bean to be pleased with him? What even is a working class man?

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scallopsrgreat · 05/11/2015 13:46

Agree with TheLynchpin. Also, and I rarely rarely say this, what's this got to do with feminism?

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TeiTetua · 05/11/2015 15:13

Maybe the issue (if anyone wants to make an issue of it) is that Bean said Corbyn was "sticking up for the working-class man" as opposed to "working-class people". So an actor says something that's a bit politically incorrect by today's standards--if we didn't automatically think showbiz people were worth listening to, we might be asking "Who's Sean Bean, and why don't his first and last names rhyme?"

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thatstoast · 05/11/2015 15:17

It's Sean Bourne or Sheen Bean, you can't have it both ways!

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 06/11/2015 15:21

I think Bean is an Irish name -a variation of Behan. Sean is also an Irish name. Sorry to sound like one of the gleefully offended, but it's really quite off to make comments like that.

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thatstoast · 06/11/2015 15:53

Why is it quite off to make comments like that?

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 06/11/2015 16:21

Why is it off to mock someone's name when it's indicative of their family coming from another country/culture?

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IShouldBeSoLurky · 06/11/2015 20:45

I don't think anyone was mocking his name Hmm - just pointing out that it looks like it should rhyme but it doesn't. His parents must have been fully aware of this when they named him.

As for JC, SB has it - the socialist revolution comes first, and after that jobs for the boys, and maybe somewhere way down the list, women's rights.

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TeiTetua · 06/11/2015 23:05

I really do think there's an excess of political correctness from some people here. What's been missing is any return by the original poster to explain why this was listed at all. Really I was triggered by Scallops to try to fill the void, finding a reason for the story appearing. Was it the "working-class man" or something else? And then I wondered why anyone cares what Sean Bean thinks about politics in the first place, given that he's in entertainment, but we always do seem to listen avidly when some showbiz celeb says they wear blue socks or grey socks. And then seeing his name written on the screen, I made fun of him in what I thought was a harmless way, but that's hard to do in these contentious times. I'm not a nasty person usually.

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 07/11/2015 10:32

It's not 'political correctness' or due to 'contentious times'. It's bloody rude to laugh at someone's name, and in the context of apparently British people on a British website laughing at an Irish name - well, you must be able to see how unpleasant it looks?

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 07/11/2015 10:34

"His parents must have been fully aware of this when they named him."

Maybe they assumed people would be bright enough to figure it out and polite enough not to make comments?

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MorrisZapp · 07/11/2015 10:40

Ffs so now we can't comment on names? I've never noticed before that Sean Beans name ought to rhyme, it's just a blooming observation, hardly a cruel attack.

Madness.

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MorrisZapp · 07/11/2015 10:42

As regards the OP, I'm with you. Whenever I hear anyone calling for equality for the 'working class man' or the 'black man' etc I tune out. They can't be that bothered about equality can they.

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thatstoast · 07/11/2015 22:41

Sean Bean's birth name is actually Shaun Bean. So with that in mind, can we have a little giggle at his name without being accused of racism or imperialism or whatever we're being accused of?

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howtorebuild · 07/11/2015 23:11

I forgot about this thread. Blush

I was irritated at Sean or Shaun, being focused on working class Men, JC has quite fifty/fifty shadow cabinet, so is not all about the Men.

As you were!

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/11/2015 11:17

I don't know if Sean Bean has any Irish ancestry or not but he's from Sheffield and it's a fairly common Yorkshire name (there's an Anglo-Saxon derivation which has nothing to do with Behan).

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TeiTetua · 08/11/2015 15:36

So Sean Bean isn't an Irishman whose national identity we must respect, but an Englishman who's guilty of cultural appropriation? O how our defence of the powerless has been abused.

My suspicion that nothing in this thread should be taken seriously has now hardened to complete certainty.

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