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Ella1980 Wed 20-Mar-19 23:40:19

I'm still on MPS6 and have been teaching for almost 15 years! 12 of those in a tiny school and I also worked very part-time following 2 x maternity leaves to have my two sons.

If it's not too nosey a question, how long have you been teaching and what pay scale are you on?

I'm looking for a new job and I think my rubbish pay scale is messing up my chances 😢

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MrsJacksonAvery Wed 20-Mar-19 23:42:06

Why haven’t you applied for UPS? I’ve been teaching nearly 14yrs and on UPS3 & have been for the last 3/4 yrs.

Ella1980 Wed 20-Mar-19 23:48:03

Because it was a minute school of two classes and as I was p/t they said no money in budget to put me on UPS. Promotion wasn't possible as school staff were class teachers and Head/SENCO.

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ramonaquimby Wed 20-Mar-19 23:52:07

gosh that's awful. I've been teaching 20 years and have been on UPS3 for the past 15

ramonaquimby Wed 20-Mar-19 23:53:18

or certainly UPS+ since then

Ella1980 Wed 20-Mar-19 23:55:23

I agree, they were just so tight with their budget they wouldn't entertain the idea. Problem is it's not looking good on applications...

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shishnfips Thu 21-Mar-19 06:42:11

I'm in an independent which has its own pay scales but I'm in my 7th year of teaching and an equivalent salary of UPS.

monkeytoad35 Thu 21-Mar-19 07:13:03

I've been teaching 9.5 years and on UPS1.

abcriskringle Thu 21-Mar-19 07:17:49

7 years (1 year mat leave) UPS1

2dogsandPG Thu 21-Mar-19 07:22:45

Don't disclose how much you earn if it's an issue. I had the opposite problem, I was deemed "too expensive" by employers after dropping down to teaching from leadership. I stopped putting how much I earn on application forms.

Yellowcar2 Thu 21-Mar-19 07:24:06

10 years 3 maternity leaves UPS3

fruityb Thu 21-Mar-19 07:25:08

My 11th year and I went to UPS 3 in September last year.

SwimmingJustKeepSwimming Thu 21-Mar-19 07:26:27

I dont knownit will be a problem. Lots and lots of part time teachers have had a similar problem..

More relevantly i know of local schools that actively chopped back the more expensive staff and actively recruits cheaper staff. Now Mats and academies run their own budgets id have thought it would go ij your favour...

tomhazard Thu 21-Mar-19 07:29:44

I've been teaching 10 years and am still on M6 technically. This is because I left my state teaching job to move abroad for a year and didn't work. Then when I came back I worked in private education where you negotiate your salary beyond M6. This is one of the reasons I will probably never return to state: I'll not be able to get paid what I'm worth.

f83mx Thu 21-Mar-19 07:32:24

Yeah can you just omit salary on cv/applications ?

Fuzzybear3 Thu 21-Mar-19 07:45:19

I’ve been teaching for 12 years and I’m also still on M6. With having a three breaks for maternity leave and being part time it never felt the right time to apply for UPS. I’m also worried it will make it even harder to find new jobs when budgets are so tight, I feel like M6 is already off putting as a lot of adverts are for M1-6 only so this puts me at the top end.

DippyAvocado Thu 21-Mar-19 07:48:00

I've been teaching for the same length of time as you. I used to be in UPS2 but took a pay cut back tonM6 when I wanted a part-time job. Theoretically, everyone is entitled to apply to go through the threshold when on M6 but I know my school don't have the budget and in reality it's even harder to ask when you're a part-timer. I wonder if I'll ever get back to UPS.

LaserShark Thu 21-Mar-19 07:51:02

11 years, UPS3 and I went through thresholds whilst on maternity leave. I’ve been part time for 8 years and had two maternity leaves so only worked two years full time in my whole career.

ineedaholidaynow Thu 21-Mar-19 07:53:39

With school budgets as they are, the lower the pay scale the better I would have thought.

Namechangeforthiscancershit Thu 21-Mar-19 08:02:11

Surely this works both ways though. Maybe people would be surprised at your pay scale, but it will mean opportunities are open to you which you'd be too expensive for otherwise? What have you been applying for?

Ella1980 Thu 21-Mar-19 08:19:57

Teaching application forms nearly always specifically ask for your current Teacher Pay Scale though?

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fruityb Thu 21-Mar-19 13:00:21

They do ask your pay scale - the one I did a couple of weeks ago certainly did anyway. They should pay you what you’re worth surely!

2dogsandPG Thu 21-Mar-19 13:53:16

They do ask, but you're not legally obliged to fill it in. I haven't been questioned about it since choosing not to put it on forms.

Holidayshopping Thu 21-Mar-19 19:01:28

I would have thought you were in a better situation on the MPS as you’re cheaper! Pay portability was scrapped in 2014 anyway, so heads can/will try to pay you what they want.

Practicallyperfectwithprosecco Thu 21-Mar-19 19:04:01

Can I ask what you had to do to apply for UPS? I'm currently mp6 and want to move up

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