Patterdale x

[Needadognow]

Just found out some puppies are available. Would love some feedback on this breed. These pups are x with a schnauzer. Pro's and cons's welcome!!

[Owllady]

They're one man dogs. Need to be trained/worked one
Lovely though but not for the feint hearted

[Needadognow]

Do they need lots of walking? What do you mean 'one man'? X

[Owllady]

They are very focussed on their person and need confidence in them

[rastamam]

Yes the need a lot of walking they are a terrier breed. My Patterdale was awesome, very loyal. Very wary of other people, really hated other dogs, very agressive which was sad for her as she couldnt be trusted with dogs or children. So very difficult to manage.But an absolute sweetheart with me (altho even I got bitten a good few times!).

[LoathsomeDrab]

All the patterdales I've met have been pretty hardcore terriers. It's worth having a look at these articles on the Patterdale Rescue site; Patties are not and The Patterdale mindset.

I'd also want to know why on earth someone has decided to cross a patt with a schnauzer. It's not exactly a logical cross and screams someone just chucking the two closest dogs with working reproductive systems together.

[rastamam]

Awesome links Loathsome, spot on! Makes me miss her alot! (she died a couple of years ago now).Definitely not a dog for living with cats/children. and definitely needs lots of exercise.

[Needadognow]

Hmmmm I have to say I'm a bit put off now. I was really looking for a family friendly dog and was convinced this was the one. As for the x I have no idea the logic behind it but hope that maybe the schnauzer personality would be stronger? They are apparently good family pets...

[LoathsomeDrab]

As for the x I have no idea the logic behind it but hope that maybe the schnauzer personality would be stronger?

There's no way to guarantee any pup from a cross like this will turn out to favour one parent in particular over the other. You could end up with a pup pretty similar to a schnauzer or one that's just like a patterdale and their appearance will have no bearing on what they'll be like as far as breed traits and personality goes. It's a bit of a gamble of you're specifically looking for something like a schnauzer.

[Floralnomad]

I have a patterdale x ( poss JRT) he is extremely family friendly , loves people , just doesn't like small furry things ,birds ,cats and is ambivalent about other dogs . Ours generally gets 60-99 minutes exercise a day , mostly off lead . Patterdales do tend to love balls . They are definitely proper terriers ! My concern with a schnauzer / patterdale x would be barking as both breeds tend to like the sound of their own voice .

[Pegglebot]

We lost our patterdale to cancer recently. He was an extremely loving dog, loved kids, infact he loved anyone who would stroke him, he liked to be cradled like a baby the silly sod. I trusted him 100% with my kids.

However, in all honestly he was a complete nightmare apart from that. Hated other dogs apart from my mums cairn, very high prey drive. We nearly lost him more times than I could count as he could escape from anywhere. Twice he was found wandering around on busy roads, how he didn't get killed or cause a crash I don't know. Oh and he barked constantly when left (which was never for long periods of time) He loved to dig too.

He was lovely in some ways but I wouldn't have another! Someone said to me once they are like the SAS of the terrier world, I think that's a pretty accurate description!

[SqueakyChicken]

Can I ask, why not just get a schnauzer, if that's the personality you were hoping for?

[rastamam]

Love your description Pegglebot, mine definietly thought she was the SAS of the terrier world! She loved a fight - mine too was a complete nightmare with other dogs - difficult to walk -got say 2 hours walk a day but really needed to be in the country side away from other dogs (apart for our JRT who she tolerated and just fought with every 6 months weirdly). She wasnt a barker however, although had a bit of a howl when left. She was extremely loving too though, and loved a snuggle, completely adorable in the circumstances she needed, but difficult out of her comfort zone. And Id say an intelligent breed.

I always say get a rescue as then you know the personality, its so much easier, no pup is guaranteed to follow exactly its 'breed traits' so you wont be sure how it will grow up.

[Needadognow]

squeaky simply because the pups are ready soon and the breeder is near and I have kind of fallen in love with the pics. Is that shallow?

[rastamam]

Have you met the puppies parents and the breeder in their own home? I only ask as there is currently a massive problem with puppy trafficking from eastern europe where the puppies are being mass bred and brought over in terrible conditions, too young, unsocialised and without proper rabies vax (or any vax but rabies is the main worry to human health). Its a huge scam that is doing really well in the uk at the moment as people seem to be buying from internet pictures disguised as lovely breeders.

Id also say have you had a dog before? In case not - I would also say that it is a huge huge commitment to get a puppy and 1 in 5 people give theres up once its no longer a pup which is why the rescue homes are full up/killing so many as theres no more room left. Do think really carefully, and definietly dont consider one youve only seen pictures of, if they live near you have a right to go and see them in their own home before you decide. See how well socialsed they are and see both parents.

But saying that, if you already have dogs etc apologies, just really hate to see people scammed and puppies suffer! Patterdales are awesome terriers but defo SAS style terriers! I woulnt get one again, especially not now I have a family, but wouldnt choose any terrier. Id also say to remember that Schnauzers are prone to certain diseases (see www.examiner.com/list/6-common-diseases-of-miniature-schnauzers for example) so do insure it. I always vote for papillons being the best family dogs! www.papillonrescueuk.com/

[basildonbond]

ddog was attacked by a patterdale x on one of his first ever walks so we've always been a bit wary of them since

there's also a couple of very aggressive schnauzers we meet quite regularly (now muzzled after several incidents with many dogs ) so all in all a patterdale/schnauzer cross is one I'd think very carefully about

[Floralnomad]

Here is my little boy , as you can see he is very cuddly !

[Needadognow]

Ahhh your boy is lovely flora. I have to say that I have young children and now I am slightly wary. I have had dogs in the past and would never just jump in and buy on a whim.

[TheTempest]

I have a Patterdale, that we rehomed from a friend of a friend. She's now 8 and we love her dearly but by god she is hard work! She hates all other dogs, any other animals, bikes, joggers, she can't be let off lead as she has no recall despite years of dedicated training. She has also destroyed two fences, climbed/ jumped a 6ft foot fence to escape, and does not stop barking. She is fab at home, great with kids and very funny though! She's also fine with our other dogs, most of the time. Definitely not for the faint hearted or novice dog owner though! Why not rescue an assessed older dog, then you have more of an idea of what you are getting yourself in for!