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SALT grrrrrrr

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StarlightMcKenzie Wed 12-Aug-09 20:04:12

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PipinJo Wed 12-Aug-09 20:35:58

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TotalChaos Wed 12-Aug-09 20:42:21

how kafkaesque..... they seem to have a list of "how to teach Pecs" that they don't seem to want to deviate from.....

Pipin - using PECs in a communication book got DS from speaking in single words and the odd phrase to speaking in sentences, having a visual for all the words really made something "click" with him. Obv it wasn't full on PECs, as I didn't need to do the early stages to use it that way.

StarlightMcKenzie Wed 12-Aug-09 20:58:50

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moondog Fri 14-Aug-09 20:07:58

I'd write this stuff down, send it to SALT in question and cc it to her boss and to Pyramid Educational Consultants, mentioning your own PECS training. Make it icily polite and factual.

It should shame them and also make you feel better.

sadminster Sat 15-Aug-09 09:54:04

Our SALT saga is ongoing too (they've admitted we haven't had a good time with the service ... gee thanks for that).

SALT came yesterday explaining that while ds is on her case load she isn't devising therapy for him a more senior SALT is (but we can't see her yet because of the 3 month wait to see a paed) ... so she can't really answer any of my questions oh & she's leaving in two weeks anyway. Asked how we're getting on with PECSs - I explained that I wasn't happy using it with no training, I don't have a prompter around so we can't practice it enough & ds is now requesting with Makaton (more TV, more biscuit, more toast). He's taken to makaton really quickly, his spoken vocabulary is slowly improving & he is communicating with us far more enthusiastically than he was before (even if only at the gesture/pointing level). Oh great she says ... next time I'll bring a PECS choice board ??????

When our referral comes up we'll be seen by the Developmental Language Clinic ... how often or what that entails I don't know.

PipinJo, my portage worker (who admits she isn't a SALT but has years more experience with children with special needs specifically language & communication than our SALT) couldn't understand why they are pushing PECS so hard with ds, he does talk & talks with his signs sometimes - we want him to talk more. I don't want to use PECS at this point - the only reason SALT gave was to get him manding which he does with makaton. We're seeing a VB consultant next week, I really want to here what he thinks about it. I feel they are just doing it for the sake of doing something ... obviously I may be wrong but since none of them are willing to explain to me why they are using it or what they hope to gain from it I remain sceptical.

StarlightMcKenzie Sat 15-Aug-09 11:43:11

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moondog Sat 15-Aug-09 14:12:14

PECS is used too often by SALTs without thinking about how and why it can be useful.

TotalChaos Sat 15-Aug-09 18:01:55

Sadminster - I suspect it comes down to local bias/preference - in my city they seem more biased towards Signalong (put on parent sessions to train in that, and that's what they use a lot in the specialist language nurseries).

StarlightMcKenzie Tue 18-Aug-09 22:17:08

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moondog Wed 19-Aug-09 07:31:47

Good, sounds like you got through to them.
[I'd still write to them outlining your unhappiness with the way things have been handled and end with 'I would like written confirmantion that this letter will go into his case file'.

It could be very useful ammo in future if you are fighting for stuff. You could use the whole fiasco as a patent demo. of how they have not met your son's needs and have messed you all about, hence need for different kind of intervention.

See what I am driving at?

moondog Wed 19-Aug-09 07:40:00

Oh and when things are going well, it iseasy to drop your guard but don't. Ever.
Continue to document everything [every phone call, informal chat and so on] and let them no [nicely] that you are doing so!

Marne Wed 19-Aug-09 07:59:59

Dd2 has been using PECS, it has been a great help but in the past couple of weeks she has started talking and will ask for things verbally. Her SALT is coming today and i know i'm going to get a slapped wrist for not using the PECS.

StarlightMcKenzie Wed 19-Aug-09 08:32:32

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moondog Wed 19-Aug-09 08:35:35

Write all that down.

TheDMshouldbeRivened Wed 19-Aug-09 08:44:19

glad you got through to them. I reckon half of them need retraining. dd indicates yes and no with sounds but the SLT we had (not since jan as she's dumped dd) wanted dd to loo at a yes/no card. dd didn't want to and verbalises it. So the last report was that 'X does not understand yes and no'
sigh
Hopefully the woman wont be allowed near disabled children again as she really didn't understand communication.

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