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So, the school have threatened me with the legal team

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lougle Wed 30-Jan-13 14:52:35

After sending the nice email to the Head, I have had an email telling me that if DD2 doesn't turn up at either the new school or the old school tomorrow, she'll pass on the information to the legal team and I'll be fined.

I've phoned the Inclusion Office and told them the situation. They're going to write a note on the database that I've informed them DD2 has a new school place from Monday and is visiting the school tomorrow, that I have bought uniform and am registered on their 'parentmail' system.

She's really going for me, isn't she?

tattoosarenotallowed Thu 31-Jan-13 07:00:39

Good luck to her. I hope it goes well

inappropriatelyemployed Thu 31-Jan-13 07:36:22

Sorry you've been through this Lougle. You have done the right thing. Our last head was like this. Everything was about her and not the child so she could be very vindictive. I stuck with it and she never changed. In fact, when we left, I fond out she had said alsorts of things behind my back to the LA (or rather head got her clerk of Govs to do so by email!). Terrified of criticism affecting her outstanding rating.

Anyway, I was going to add that you can always say you a home edding in any gap between schools. No one will challenge that. But you have it sorted now anyway.

Best of luck

marchduck Thu 31-Jan-13 09:55:54

Good luck to your little girl on her first day Lougle

imogengladhart Thu 31-Jan-13 10:08:56

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chocjunkie Thu 31-Jan-13 10:30:15

keeping all fingers and toes crossed for your DD2 smile

ChippingInLovesMN Thu 31-Jan-13 10:39:51

Lougle - it's ridiculous, absolutely bloody ridiculous. If you have the energy I'd write a letter of complaint and send copies to all and sundry!!

I hope DD LOVES her new school smile

Handywoman Thu 31-Jan-13 11:29:38

....coming late to this..... WOW! A triumph, Lougle!

Glad to hear dd2 woke with a spring in her step. Forget the old PE kit, let the positivity spill over... honking for you, and for mini-Lougle. Hope her first day goes well.

I also think you are along the right lines with Option B for approach to new HT.

More wine for you from this direction wine

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 11:51:34

Little update:

New receptionist took us for a quick tour of the lunch hall and showed DD2 where her classroom and toilets are.

New teacher is lovely. Very jolly, extremely positive. She apologised profusely for not having everything ready (well that would be because we're starting 3 days early!)

Teacher showed masses of interest in DD2's homework and put it on their 'sharing board' for everyone to see. She told DD2 how much her class were looking forward to seeing her. She identified a child who she thought would be good to introduce DD2 to, and asked her Mum if she could enter the class early so that she could look after DD2.

I wasn't going to say anything to teacher, but when the child said hello to DD2, she just stared at the girl (not unpleasantly, just blankly, as she does) so I just said to the teacher 'By the way....DD2 has a few issues with social skills, so she tends to just stare at other children when they say hi. She also tends to agree with anything you're saying, even if it isn't true, so you may notice that and you may need to use really open questions.'

The response?

Amazing - She thanked me for letting her know and said that any little pieces of info were so useful. She said to pop in any time if I had any concerns and that I was welcome to see her books at any time!

LabelsGalore Thu 31-Jan-13 12:07:17

This looks ever so positive compare to the response you had at her previous school.
You must be so pleased and relieved.

What about your dd, has she been as keen on her new school?

NoHaudinMaWheest Thu 31-Jan-13 12:09:44

So glad you have had a really positive start.

PolterGoose Thu 31-Jan-13 12:10:17

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starfishmummy Thu 31-Jan-13 12:12:47

Hope the day goes well for littlelougle.

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 12:13:57

Well she seemed ok when I said goodbye...we'll see.

I've also contacted admissions (who said earlier in the week that I'd have to put in a late application) and when I explained that under no circumstances could I put DD3 in her former 1st choice school, he said to email across the details and the changes and it should be able to be amended despite the deadline passing - watch this space!

fuckadoodlepoopoo Thu 31-Jan-13 12:19:52

Can you link the original thread? This all sounds interesting but I've no idea what its about.

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 12:25:28

Original Thread

This was never going to be a 'bumbling along to a compromised solution' situation hmm

StarlightMcKenzie Thu 31-Jan-13 12:42:25

I think you played it really well, pointing out a difficulty when it presented instead of going in with a list of concerns that they haven't yet witnessed.

Teacher sounds fab.

15th Feb is the deadline for extenuating circumstances wrt admissions. So hopefully all will be fine with that.

Walter4 Thu 31-Jan-13 12:45:36

Incredible lougle! So pleased she so excited, be thinking of you both tomo .

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 13:21:07

Star - where did you find that? I've just read through the Admissions Code and it isn't there at all?

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 13:23:58

I've just checked my LA website and they state that only change of home address can be considered between 15th January and 15th February <wibble>

StarlightMcKenzie Thu 31-Jan-13 13:30:42

I honestly can't remember Lougle. I will have a look. I have a child going through admissions too and with one or two complications so did do some good reading at one point.

I think it is 'changes in circumstances' as opposed to 'changes of home address' iyswim, but I think they like to only publish the home thing as it is the most straightforward. Otherwise it looks like it is open to interpretation and they'll have appeals galore.

Possibly for tehnical reasons it can go through as a change of address, from your current address to your current address confused

zzzzz Thu 31-Jan-13 13:58:46

Honk honk. Stop wobbling you're doing fine, brilliant in fact.

I hope it's fabulous.

MareeyaDolores Thu 31-Jan-13 18:19:48

Read page 4 change of address "or other exceptional circumstances". The rules are the same nationally, but different LEAs can vary the criteria for what counts as exceptional... they need to be able to justify it in appeal though. You have timings of dd1's SN school bus after the emergency change of dd2's school today. It needs to be a rare circumstance, as LAs hate setting a precedent for late applications

MareeyaDolores Thu 31-Jan-13 18:23:50

Work out your timings for doing the two drop-offs and (providing it's obviously impossible wink) then ring or email transport to get them to confirm there's no chance of dd1's bus working out, then quote them.

And blimey, I'm left gasping for breath just watching how fast you move when your mind's made up grin thanks HONK

lougle Thu 31-Jan-13 20:36:44

The transport is a non-reason, tbh. Today I was able to get to the school, pick DD2 up at 3.30, walk back to the carpark, get her in the car and drive home by 3.35! We are quite fortunate that our new house is just two (one short, one long) roads away from the new school. I think that actually, it takes as long to get home from the old school (which is only the short road of the two roads away) because DD2 was so much further around the school and the parking was much further away.

I think I'm going to have to rely on the arguments that

a) I have asked to change my preferences just 15 days after the initial deadline and 15 days before the final deadline - this gives them plenty of time to process the change
b) I asked the same day as my DD2 was enrolled at new school, and that change is in itself an exceptional circumstance, as the vast majority of parents do not change their school between 15th Jan and 15th Feb
c) There is an irreconcilable breakdown in the relationship between old school and us
d) To force us to accept the old school place would be tantamount to refusing DD2 a school due to c)
e) No reasonable authority would insist that a parent sends a child to a school they had removed another child from, when they had the means and opportunity to prevent the situation
f) If DD3 is considered an on-time applicant, she is guaranteed a place (criteria 3, only after looked after, statemented and exceptional psychological/medical needs).

lougle Fri 01-Feb-13 12:30:27

I spoke again to Admissions today (dog-with-bone) and happened to speak to the young man named 'Sam' who I spoke to previously. He tried to change his advice and said I may well need to do a late application as 'it relates to another child.' I clarified that it is the same child's application, just a change in where her sibling priority relates to, upon which he said 'they may change it for you.'

I decided this was a bit woolly for me, so I asked him his surname for my records.

It may well be co-incidence, but half-an-hour ago, I got an email which says:

"As you have a change in circumstance that has been notified to us before the administrative freeze date, I have amended the preference order as requested.

<New> Primary School is now listed as your 1st preference school with Sibling criteria."

So, I have it in writing that she is listed as a sibling at new school and it is our first choice.

Unless there are 60 children who are either Statemented, LAC, Have medical/pshychological evidence or have a sibling at the school and live closer than 1.7 miles (we're rural), she's guaranteed a place at new school.

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