Hi, my son is 6 and has a language disorder and maybe ASD but who knows, we have just been re-referred to a peadiatrician to find out. H e has phonological language disorder, receptive and expressive language delays and problems with social understanding.
Recently he has been bursting into tears a lot, which is quite normal for him but what he has been saying worries me, he keeps saying he is just a silly boy and that he is naughty. He has also asked me tonight to go get a knife and stab him because he is not a real boy 
He is having problems at school at the moment, he is finding it hard to read and he keeps getting told off for not sitting still, being too loud and hurting peoples feelings.
I am really worried about his seemingly low self-esteem, this is quite unusual for him as he has always been so happy and extremely confident. i don't know what to do, should i wait for his appointment with the peadiatricain to come through or go back to the GP and ask them to refer to CAMHS?
His appt has taken so long, he was referred ages ago but he was referred to the wrong place so the GP had to re-send the referral. He has a speech therapy appt on tuesday so i don't know if i should mention it to them, I'm not sure if they can do anything though.
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6 year old with language problems, possible ASD asking me to stab him because he is not a real boy :(
JustPondering · 13/10/2012 23:28
He sounds very upset and anxious and the root cause seems to be school. It sounds like his school environment is not meeting his needs and is being positively damaging to his emotional well-being 
, poor little boy.
School needs to be aware of how he is feeling and they need to be actively seeking ways to support him academically, socially and emotionally within school.
CAMHS could be helpful but what needs to happen first and foremost and ASAP is for you to request an urgent meeting with school to share your concern about what is happening with him and to demand that school takes immediate action to better support him. Does he have an education statement? Has an education psychologist been involved? If not these things need to happen. Has there been a SENCO involved - they might be a good person to speak to first off.
Good luck and I hope school becomes more supportive and fast.
I have posted on here before about him. His behaviour at home varies really, he can be very loving and sweet, he is also prone to emotional outbursts over seemingly nothing, for example he will start screaming if his older brother so much as touches his arm when he doesnt want him to. He is also emotional when happy, he crys with happiness when he gets a new toy 
He has recently started tip-toe pacing in front of the TV, which is new for him, only started since returning to school. He watches TV upside down every time and spins for an extraordinary amount of time and never gets dizzy. He can not sit still at all unless he is watching TV. He has no volume control.
He can make friends initially but he falls out with them often as DS always has to be in charge and has to choose every game. He is very controlling. He has recently started stealing food when he is supposed to be in bed and he is definately not hungry he eats like a horse yet he is very slim, he has been finding the food in the hamper we put together for christmas every year. He still wets the bed and is on medication for this.
He spends most of the day at home in imaginary play, he plays with action figures mostly.
It is getting hard to take him anywhere as he runs all over the place, says inappropriate things to people, and if we have to wait in a queue he rolls around on the floor or sways and tries to grab leaflets and things, it is very stresfull.
He can't always recognise people 
he has always got my 2 sisters mixed up who look nothing like each other and 1 of them are here daily. He also gets 2 of my friends mixed up with each other and 2 of his friends.
I asked him why he thinks he isn't a real boy, he says its because he doesn't know a lot of stuff and he can't ride a bike. He said he doesn't want to go back to school until he can read. Then he changed his mind and gave me a bizaare explanation about water in his belly and knifes get people away and water.
Hi Just, there are quite a few red flags in your description of your Ds. When are you next seeing the paed?
I would recommend keeping a diary of his quirks/issues and how you deal with them. I found that my diary made the proffs sit up and take notice of what we were trying to deal with on a daily basis.
I agree with what others have said about the school not meeting his needs. You definitely need to meet with the HT and or SENCO.
Good luck 
I would definitely mention it at the CDC, they might be able to advise you.
I had to chase appointments for Dd3 many times. I would give the paeds secretary a ring and check that they have received the referral.
I am dead cheeky and always ask if we can be contacted if there is a cancellation as i am available at short notice. We have just skipped the podiatry waiting list in this way.
Good luck
Hi, went well, the head and the SENCO where in a meeting this morning so I went and took DS to school and the SENCO rang me back, she agrees that he sounds like he is feeling bad and it seems to be related to school, we are having a meeting today at 3.15, that is with the SENCO, the class teacher and the pastoral teacher. Will update later. She said someone will keep an eye out for him at playtime.
DS went into school saying he had to be very brave at school and that it would be hard to sit still on the carpet as it is very lumpy, bless him.
Hi the meeting went well, the SENCO told me to request a particualar peadiatrician and go to the GP for a urgent referral to CAMHS as we couldn't wait for the peadiatrician appt.
We went to the GP today who spoke to DS, DS told her that he wanted to die so he would know what it feels like as he's never been dead before, so she said "yes but you would miss all you family wouldn't you?" he said "well no, because I would be dead and wouldn't be able to feel anything or think anything". She asked him what he thought dead was and if anything was bothering him and he told her that school was bothering him every day.
GP said that he is a bit young for CAMHS but she feels he needs some assessments doing so has referred him, she also chased up the appt with peadiatrician and that is on the 5th november. She also told me to keep any knifes out of reach. He also has to do some urine samples because he is wetting the bed still.
been a productive day as he had his assessments with speech today too but they haven't been scored yet, although he didn't seem to do so well on the part where he had to give logical explanations and the literal language part, he seemed to do okay on the story re-telling part.
Oh no. Oh well, I suppose that right now a bit of hair is the least of your worries though... just a small 'oh fuck'.
I know combined with everything else the 'wanting to be dead' thing is a worry, but many kids go through this weird phase, a bit obsessed with death or rather 'being' dead, how it feels, what it means etc - all kids can be a bit odd
I still can't believe how honest and open he was with the Dr, it's good as it's moved the referrals along more quickly!
Any idea how he got on with the speach assessments?
Yes I was very surprised at what he said to the doctor, but she did ask him very specific questions, like why do you want to be stabbed and he said because he doesnt know what it feels like, and she asked him if he would miss everyone and he said no because when your dead you cant think anything. She also asked him if he knew what happened when you die and he said you go to god and live in a star. She then asked him if anything was bothering him at home or at school and he said yes at school.She asked him if heliked his teacher. She said to him that if he got help at school would he still want to stab himself and he said no. Doctor said he could do with having some assessments done.
She also asked him how old his brothers where and DS answered with "my brother is sometimes nice and sometimes silly like me"
No idea how he went on with the assesments I think the results will be posted with a report, I will post the results on here though. She said that he couldn't seem to give a good explanation for things and that even a very young child should be able to give a logical explanation. But she didn't have time to score while we were there as we were running late.
I have to say he doesn't seem depressed at all, so maybe it is just an idea he has got from somewhere. He does cry a lot, but that is normal for him, he has always been over emotional.
It sounds horrible what was happening to your godson, must have been very scary. See I don't actually think DS would actually try to hurt himself, but who knows.
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