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11 week old become nocturnal?

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Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 01:51:11

Hi guys

Okay so I know babies patterns change all the time so just after reassurance that we can work with this, up until 3 days ago my dads was awake a lot through the day going down for final sleep around 12 (colic/purple time preventing him any earlier) no it's gone until about 2:30 to 3am and sleeping most of the day, I'm not sure if oh overstimulates as he does the shift 7-12 with him so I can get some guaranteed sleep, is this a phase or more effort to keep it quiet at night? Is it possible that babies can go back to not understanding the difference?

FATEdestiny Tue 25-Oct-16 10:55:18

What do you consider "sleeping most of the day"?

At 11 weeks I would expect baby to have around 30-45 minutes awake time between one daytime nap and the next.

Good sleep promotes better sleep
Poor sleep promotes worse sleep

So my thoughts for the reason for your baby's awake time at night is not too much sleep. It's more likely to be caused by over tiredness.

Consistent and long term lack of sleep is likely to give you a baby who is harder to get to sleep, has restless sleep, wakes more easily so therefore sleeps less.

The physiology of sleep changes at around 3 months old. It stops being passive. So you are entering the phase when you need to actively work to get baby to sleep and stsy asleep. You could try:

- dummy
- rocking
- bouncing
- feeding to sleep
- bed sharing
- cuddling
- shushing, patting, stroking, tickling
- white noise
- swaddle
- Pushchair pushing
- drives in the car

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 11:21:03

Hi, well today for example so far
2:30am sleep
7:30 woke bottle play
8:30 sleep
10:30 bottle
11:00 sleep

Going if past days he will sleep until next bottle around 2 so following your advise I'll keep an eye on this afternoons and ask my partner to log from 7-12 to see

FATEdestiny Tue 25-Oct-16 11:38:20

2.30-7.30am sleep is fine. Normal. All good.

7.30-8.30am awake time is on the long side, but fine.

How long was the 8.30am sleep? Was it 2 hours until 10.30am? I'm which case longer awake time is fine becuase that's comparably a long nap.

So far, so normal.

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 12:01:20

Hi fate

Thank you so much for taking time to help, yes 8:30 to 10:30 full two hour nap, and currently still asleep from 11:00, I'll update again early evening

FATEdestiny Tue 25-Oct-16 12:31:24

Long naps are great! As long as baby's weight gain is ok then no need to ever wake a sleeping baby. Just lengthen awake time between naps. Maybe try for 90-120 minutes awake between one nap and the next.

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 18:09:09

Hiya weight is fine he's doing really well, okay so update plus recap
2:30 sleep
7:30 woke bottle play
8:30 sleep
10:30 woke bottle
11:00 slept till 2:30
2:30 woke bottle play
3:30 nap
4:10 woke play bath
5:30 bottle
5:50 sleep

Currently still asleep but soon he will wake and that will be for hours, however I'll get my partner to keep a log whilst I'm asleep, I hope the above makes sense, I don't know how I could keep him awake longer as for example when he fell asleep at 11 I exchanged him to car seat in and out of shops and he stayed asleep until 2:30 nothing would wake him

FATEdestiny Tue 25-Oct-16 18:36:29

Given baby had a mamouth 3 1/2 hour nap, 1 hour awake afterwards was very short. Why did you put baby down to sleep at 3.30pm? Could you have kept him going or was he exhausted?

After the 2.30 wake id have kept mine going until about 4pm. Allowed an hour powernap (woken at 5pm) for a 7pm ish bedtime.

Your DS seems to have a sleep routine much of a much older baby. But that's not a problem.

If it was me I would aim for two 2 hour naps and one 1 hour nap, waking if needed in order to keep the routine. Personally I would aim for:

7.30am wake (followed by 90m awake time)
9-11 nap (followed by 2h awake time)
1-3 nap (followed by 90m awake time)
4.30-5.30 nap (followed by 2h awake time)
7.30 bedtime

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 19:33:04

Update he woke at 6:15 playing for an hour eyes started getting red and yawned so oh just took him for drive to try and get sleep before he gets overtired

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 19:35:29

Hiya yes through the day he just falls asleep no help required and you can tell he tired as his eyelids go red, I'm gunna attempt your suggestion tomorrow and see how I get on, thanks again!

Savannah13nbump Tue 25-Oct-16 19:44:05

Oh and just to add, this is why it's weird as last week he would be awake for an hour or two in the morning and the afternoon but the last 3-4 days he is just sleeping all day well that's how it seems it's like he just knackered, I don't think there is a growth spurt at 11 weeks but this is how he has been in previous growth spurts just sleeping through it, problem is with this one he then awake for hours at night

FATEdestiny Tue 25-Oct-16 20:33:18

I'm assuming baby is well in himself?

Newborn babies (ie up to 12 weeks) do sleep a lot. It can be as much as 20 hours in 24. However sudden changes in sleepiness or excessive sleepiness and missing feeds should be something to tell your GP about.

Savannah13nbump Wed 26-Oct-16 01:41:59

Hi, yes he is well in him self very smiley at play times no sickness ect, I was thinking of speaking with doctor I'll give a call tomorrow just to make sure

Savannah13nbump Wed 26-Oct-16 12:23:20

Just a quick update, we've been doctors medically all okay, he has been abit more awake today not much but every minute counts, I guess he is just needing his sleep

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