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Advice please- Wifework troubles.

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pallymama · 24/01/2011 13:34

I know that this will probably echo a lot of previous threads, and I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record. This is my first post on this topic, or even in this section, so please go easy on me!

A bit of background; DH works full-time and I work part-time. We have one DD who is a year old. DH is a fantastic father, and the child care is very much shared. When I'm at work, DD is at nursery, the other two days she is at home with me. At the weekend we're all at home together, or more often, all out visiting family. We had agreed before having DD that DH would take responsibility for more of the housework, but other than a few token gestures, it has never happened. He will pull his weight for a week, maybe two, and then just slips back into leaving everything up to me. If he ever decides to help with a DIY job, he never finishes it, or cleans up after himself.

We've tried to sort this out several different ways, we've allocated jobs, we've done rotas, and we've taken turns. I've nagged him, left him notes, I've handed him jobs on the spur of the moment, and I've left things for weeks, waiting for him to get around to it. We have had a few arguments about it. We have sat down and spoken about it calmly. He agrees that the housework is not just my responsibility, and that he needs to do his share, and I have explained why it upsets and annoys me when he doesn't. I have also explained that, while, him running the vacuum about when asked is a step in the right direction, what I need more, is for him to shoulder some of the responsibility. We have spoken about all this on more than one occasion, and at great length. I don't feel like a wife and a mum, I feel like I have 2 children, and one is a teenager!

Over the last few weeks he hasn't lifted a finger around the house, not even to put his own clean clothes away, or put his mug into the dishwasher. The result is that I have turned into a nagging harpy, and we have been arguing frequently. After one discussion, he offered to sort out a baby sitter, and book us an appointment at DDs nursery, for parents evening, so it was one task that I didn?t have to worry about. I asked him this morning if it was all sorted out yet and he told me we had missed it. I was fuming! His only response was to shrug it off, saying that he would have booked a baby sitter if I'd made an appointment! Angry When I reminded him that he was supposed to be booking it all, he just shook his head and left the room. I was so stunned, and so angry that I couldn't do anything but look at him, so he said goodbye and left for work.

Other than recently, we don't usually argue. On the few occasions we have, we've always made up, and sorted out whatever caused it. But now, I'm finding it hard to believe that he respects me, and I don't feel loved anymore. I love him dearly, but I'm stumped! (I also feel a bit silly to be making such a fuss over this after having read some of the other threads here.) What do I do now?

Sorry this is so long and thank you if you made it through to the end!

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coldtits · 24/01/2011 13:38

Go on strike. Function on the same level that he functions at. Get all his dirty, clean whatever clothes, and all his left-around crockery, and all the wrappers and crumbs (cos I bet he does that too), leave them for 24 hours to give him time to deal with them, then fill his pillowcase with it.

it's NOT your mess and you shouldn't have to deal with it.

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AnotherMumOnHere · 24/01/2011 14:05

I agree re leaving his things where he does. Dont clean anything up after him, dont even bother making his meals. Ironing? Nae chance !

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pallymama · 24/01/2011 14:08

Thank you for you're replies. I have tried leaving things until he deals with it, it just gets disgusting. A few months back I started collecting up his mess in a box and putting it on his side of the bed. He just adds to it. If I leave it on his side of the bed, it ends up on the floor and stays there. In fact, it's still there now. I think I will try striking though. When he runs out of clothes to wear he might notice!

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Ineedacoffee · 24/01/2011 14:25

Can you afford a cleaner? I think they save many a marriage!

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pallymama · 24/01/2011 14:36

Ineedacoffee - Unfortunately not. I wish we could! :)

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mamas12 · 24/01/2011 20:07

Yes go on strike with everything to do with him and see how he likes it.
That means gettinga bit petty but really you have tried everything it seems, maybe a practical example of what it means ie booking or not booking something for him.

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mum295 · 24/01/2011 20:41

I've gone on strike before now and it took DH a few days to notice Hmm but he did notice in the end, and didn't like it.

A cleaner needn't cost that much. It saved us from a lot of rows. I tried going without one last year after moving house and felt myself getting very resentful again, so shopped around and found one at a good rate. Much happier since then.

Is there something else you could do without in order to get a cleaner?

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IAPJJLPJ · 24/01/2011 20:43

How many days do you work?

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pallymama · 25/01/2011 08:44

mum295 - I really don't think so. We don't pay for any memberships, clubs, or lessons. We don't go out. We just pay mortgage, bills and buy food. If there's any left over it goes into sorting out our house. I think I would be more resentful if our roof had to wait to be fixed because the money went on a cleaner. For the record, we're in the house he desperately wanted. :)

IAPJJLPJ - I work 3 days a week. Including commute, it's 12 hours a day.

He came home last night and tidied DDs toys away, put his clean clothes away, and tooks the mugs off his desk! We had a bit of a talk, and I've told him that as soon as he stops pulling his weight, I'm going on strike. I haven't tried getting petty yet, but if necessary, I'll try that next! Grin Thanks for all your replies.

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FreudianSlippery · 25/01/2011 08:48

I may be biased as no way could we afford a cleaner, but I'm not sure it's the answer.
It could just make things even worse as he'll get more complacent - he'll have 2 women running around after him instead of one!

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ChoChoSan · 25/01/2011 10:48

Can you organize a cleaner, and get DH to pay for it? Don't see why it should come from general house funds....if he can't afford it then perhaps he can get a bar job or something one night a week to pay for it, that way he is not just lazing around the house uselessly, but genuinely pulling his weight.

Do you do his laundry and ironing? Perhaps you could agree that he gets them done elsewhere, then if he finds himself with no clean pressed work clothes, HE needs to take the trouble to drop them off at cleaner's.

You are not a nag....you shouldn't have to remind a grown man to take care of his responsibilities.

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rookiemater · 25/01/2011 17:33

I'm borrowing someone elses idea from another thread, but go on a sex strike. If he chooses to act like a child then not difficult to see that you will find it hard to accept his behavious and then want to cosy up when it is night time.

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StuffingGoldBrass · 25/01/2011 18:43

I would advise telling him that you are considering ending the marriage over this, because you find it impossible to feel love, respect and desire for someone who has decided that you are his servant simply because he is the one with the penis.
Because his behaviour is calculated and it is deliberate. He thinks that domestic shitwork is women's work and that all he has to do is make the occasional gesture and promise to pull his weight, because you will always pick up the slack.

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coppertop · 25/01/2011 18:53

Sorry but he's not a fantastic father if he's bringing your dd up to think it's her role in life to be a skivvy to men. And would a fantastic father miss his child's nursery/schoo0l events purely because he couldn't be bothered to get his act together to make an appointment?

He may well be wonderful with the fun stuff but a fantastic father is one who also does his share of the crap jobs too.

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pallymama · 26/01/2011 07:22

ChoChoSan - all our money is shared, maybe that needs to change. If so, I will look into the laundry service idea, thank you.

rookiemater - We're already there! Blush Not a conscious decision, but if I'm not feeling loved, then neither is he! Besides, he's usually asleep before I go to bed.

StuffingGoldBrass - Wow! I know this issue pi**es me off and upsets me, but I'd never thought of it as a deal breaker. I suppose it could get to that point over time. I'd never considered that his behaviour is deliberate, I always view it as forgetful and lazy! Maybe it is, I'll have to have a think about that.

oppertop - Sorry, but I stand by view on his parenting. This is the one area that he does do his share (except for with booking appointments!) He shared her night feeds when she was little, and night wakings now. He looks after her if she's poorly,. At the weekends he changes more nappies than I do. The point about th effect on DDs ideas about her role in life is a good one though. I'll be bringing that one up with him.

Thank you for your replies :)

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wyorksmum · 26/01/2011 07:38

You need 2 washing baskets then. 1 to pile up his ironing in. Keep it down his side of the bed where he has to step over it every day. Don't think it's time to say your leaving - yet . Marriage is like a roller coaster. Having a 1 yr old to look after is hard enough. Don't be so hard on yourself. Buy in some meals (with jars and labels he can read) that he can cook easily himself while you potter around cleaning etc, it will feel like your doing it together.

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Ephiny · 26/01/2011 08:22

I think SGB is right, this sort of behaviour usually is calculated and deliberate. The 'proof' for me is that these men usually manage to function perfectly well at work (are often very competent and successful in fact) and don't bumble around in the workplace 'forgetting' to do the things that are their responsibility, or leaving things unfinished or in a mess, or needing colleagues to 'nag' them or write little lists for them to help them plan their day. It's a matter of motivation, not ability.

I know it seems silly and petty to make such a big deal out of something like housework (and that's one of the reasons they get away with it, because no one wants to be a stereotypical nagging wife), but as you've alluded to, it's not just about that, it's about the underlying attitudes, the lack of love and respect when one partner treats the other like a servant and doesn't care how unhappy ond overworked it's making them.

Definitely don't do his washing and ironing for him, why would you do that? I bet he never does yours for you?

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Ephiny · 26/01/2011 08:29

Oh, and would also say don't 'look into the laundry service' (unless you're planning to use it for your/DDs stuff as well). That's for him to do, he's not a child and it's not your responsibility.

It's a good idea though. DP gets his work shirts washed and ironed by such a place as he hates ironing and he seems happy with the job they do. There was never any question of me doing them for him, or arranging for them to be done.

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gondolo · 26/01/2011 17:24

I have the same problems with my husband. To be honest, its not the doing of the actual tasks that bother's me...it's the thinking, and remembering things, phoning people, arranging stuff & paying bills etc! I do ALL of that sort of thing. I like cooking and enjoy cooking for us both - but I don't enjoy doing the washing & tidying up as well!
Now we've got a little one on the way (6/40) our first - I'm worried that he's just going to get worse!
We both work full time in identical jobs too, so he's got no excuse!
Advice above has been very helpful though, thank you!

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