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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:05

Marriage has broken down.
Moved in with my parents
Am in bunk beds with 5 year old son
Room is 8 by 6!
My dad is an uncontrolled diabetic - mood swings galore. I wouldn't leve my 5 year old son alone with him.

This morning (in addition to the crap weekend I had with my ex)my Dad blew up at DS. I was at work so my Mum witnessed it - he shouted and screamed at DS because he wouldn't pick up some pencils - DS dissolved into tears.
It's not the shouting at him bit or wanting him to do as he is told that worried me - it's that my Dad loses it completely. DS is scared of him.

So - my income is just under 1500 a month now that I have had a pay rise. Good pay rise - was just under 1300 so has gone up nearly ÂŁ100.

By the time I have looked at council tax, electric, housekeeping, childcare, water and petrol (needed for me to work) I have a grand total of about ÂŁ500 a month left for renting privately.
Do you know what that gets me here - nothing - even the dodgy housing estate up the road requires ÂŁ575.

Am off to the council housing department this week . Ho Hum!

Oh - and of course I earn just that bit too much to get any housing benefit help.

Maybe I should resign or drop my hours so I AM eligble.

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cockles · 28/07/2008 16:13

tax credits?

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:15

Ah - yes - the buggers overpaid us two years ago. DH is self employed and underestimated his income based upon the previous crap year. We just hit inside the lever where you get minimum - hence we owe them about ÂŁ1500. Am paying this back at ÂŁ50 a month - hence not getting any tax credit at the mo.

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eandh · 28/07/2008 16:18

housing benefit?

Now you are single income you will be entitled to more tax credits (in fact me and dh were having issues and I looked into it and I'd get ÂŁ3500 extra a year plus help toewards childcare!)

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lalalonglegs · 28/07/2008 16:18

I wish I had something useful to say, it sounds very, very tough. At the very least the council will have to acknowledge you are living in overcrowded housing - may put you a little closer to the top of the list.

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eandh · 28/07/2008 16:18

they will still deduct some money but will pay you extra than the basic minimum

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eandh · 28/07/2008 16:19

sorry missed the bit about pay/ housing benefit

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:30

Child care costs are minimal - ÂŁ35 a month.

Have found a place 10 miles away which I could afford. Obviously then I have to adjust the petrol costs but might be possible.

Salary is just over 25k - so good salary. But after Tax/NI/NHS Pension thingie am left with just under ÂŁ1500. Still a good amount but when you add everything up it only leaves a spare ÂŁ500-ÂŁ550 even with the Child Benefit.

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:31

why isn't your ex contributing? Don't you have any proceeds from a house sale to help? Have you tried housing associations?

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:31

Or there is a Caravan Park about 8 miles away which rents out fully serviced 2 bed caravans for ÂŁ125 a week. Might not lose my place on the housing queue then.

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:32

You might be better financially not working.

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:34

bastard taxman is robbing you blind.

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:35

My ex wants us to get back together - long story but have had a dreadful weekend with him crying down the phone. Lots of lies and no real sign that he can take any responsibility.
He is self employed and much of his work is in schools - therefore he will earn bugger all this month.
I do not want to move back in with him - we need to have major couples counselling and I am not sure our marriage will be saveable even then.

No house sale as we were privately renting - he is still in the property (170 miles away).

I am registered with one housing association but am hoping the council will refer me to a few others once I see them this week.

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:36

I might indeed be better off not working. But - hell - I'd never be able to buy the Daily Mail again - nooo can't do it.

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:37

he still needs to give you money, how is he paying the rent?

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:38

I lived in a caravan for a couple of months with my dd recently and we enjoyed it, it's certainly the weather for it. Might give you a bit of a breather if you find a nice spot.

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 16:39

Don't ask - I believe he is now at least 6 weeks in arrears - despite me printing off the Housing Benefit form when I left - the silly bugger never filled it in but told me he had - yet another lie.

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rebelmum1 · 28/07/2008 16:39

He sounds useless.

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fedupandisolated · 28/07/2008 21:46

Am going to the Housing office on Thursday - might be going homeless the way things are.

Back at parents house - they are both here and not speaking to each other

DS is in bed but told me that "Grandad shouted at me and I got scared"

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expatinscotland · 28/07/2008 21:51

Market rent from a housing association?

Contact the HA yourself and ask if they offer any housing at 'market rent'.

Assured tenancy, and they will take child benefit and tax credits into consideration when determining your total income.

And then once you get moved in you can apply for HB.

Don't knock caravans, we're looking at going in that direction ourselves next year.

Double glazing, heat, and a spot of outdoor space.

All on one level and 'ground floor', too.

Fees may be lower than council tax, too.

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fiodyl · 28/07/2008 22:42

If possible ask your parents to write a letter to the council that you can take with you on thursday. ask them to state that while they are temporarily accomadating you they CANNOT do so indefinatley. Put reasons for this e.g financial/medical/lack of space etc and if they will a proposed date that they will be forced to make you homeless IYKWIM.

This will strengthen your case as will a Statement of Affairs(SOA)-this is basically a list of your income versus outgoings. Templates are available on the internet- make sure you include EVERYTHING.

Also are you applying to the same council as you have previously been paying council tax to and do you have strong links(work/family/school) in that area If not the council may say that they do not have a duty to house you.

If the council does agree to house you dont expect to get somewhere suitable and permanent straight away- it could be a Bed and Breakfast or a 1bed flat and might even be in a completely different area. You will have to pay for it though if you have the means to.

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fedupandisolated · 29/07/2008 07:25

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am considering the caravan - only concern is that it's on the local island - a nightmare to get on and off of during rush-hour.

The council is one I pay Council Tax to and I work in the town for the NHS so am a key worker. Tried the shared ownership approach but don't earn enough to cope with mortgage plus rent - (the Housing Association's IFA was thorough and good when going through the expenses with me and this was his advice).

Have an application in with the Housing Association for discounted rent. Will ring them today and make sure they are aware I cannot do the shared ownership scheme.

Will take a Statement of Affairs with me to the council though - hadn't thought of that. My Mum is coming with me too.

Gosh - am 42 - never thought I'd be in this position.

Have been advised by Mum's friend (who works in the council's housing department) that they are unlikely to put me in B+B because of the age of DS. However, said that I would probably only get temporary accommodation which may be unsuitable (1 bed flat for example) but which may end up being made permanent.

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