Does anyone know about 5-14 in Scotland?

[KristinaM]

I would like to know at what stage the children should sit each level. DD ( and the rest of her group) have still not passed level E in anything. The teacher says they will sit E in Reading next term but it will be next year (primary 7) before they sit level E in Writing and Maths. If this is the case, how will they manage to reach level F before they move onto secondary school? We are worried that she will start high school behind the others who come from more "pushy" primary schools ( the high school she will go to is not the one associated with her primary school)

[Littlefish]

I don't know either. Are you in the UK?

[Seona1973]

it is a Scottish testing system. The sheet dd has says this:

Level A - should be attained in the course of P1 - P3 by almost all pupils

Level B - should be attained by some pupils in P3 or even earlier but by most in P4

Level C - should be attained in the course of P4 - P6 by most pupils

Level D - should be attained by some pupils in P5 - P6 or even earlier but certainly by most in P7

Level E - should be attained by some pupils in P7/S1 but certainle by most in S2.

It doesnt mention Level F but talks about level E spanning both primary and secondary school so I wouldnt think your lo is behind in any way at all.

[KristinaM]

sorry cat and littlefish I should have put in the thread title that is is the system used in Scottish schools at the moment

although i believe they are changing to Curriculum for Excellence shortly and I can't find information about 5-14 online

thank you seona, that's reassuring

i wonder what level F is then.....

[KristinaM]

thanks SGM, so its normal to only be at level E in p6/7? her school tend to put the whole group forward at a time - its not the whole class, just their set of about 6-8 children.

I have tried not to worry about her progress in school but as high school looms i am beginning to get a bit twitchy. we have moved house since she started primary - only a few miles down the road but its no a different local authority and its very pushy/results orientated compared with her present school. I know the kids get a lot more homework / pressure etc than ours and I'm worried about her starting S1 really far behind.

she's in this lovely smallish school with great pastoral care and she LOVES everything - all the kids all her teachers, all her work etc etc

and we are sending her to this huge exam factory where she will be just a number for their league tables...

[cookiesb510]

Hi I'm new to this site but saw your thread whilst doing research for my current assignment. I am a student teacher in Scotland and seona1967 has stated what the guideline ages are for each stage, however we are encouraged to remember that all children develop at their own rate and that even in P6 they could be level A or on the other extreme could be level F.

Your child is on target and you have no worries, and do not worry to much about 5-14 levels of attainment as it is now the Curriculum for Excellence that is coming in and the 5-14 levels will not be relevant.

[PurpleFrog]

Level D is the level of attainment that is expected at the end of P7. Anything higher is a bonus. In our last parent/teacher interview dd's P7 teacher said that it was not always a good thing to push on too far in Primary - you may end up repeating work at secondary and being bored, or finish level F early and have teachers refusing to start you on standard grade work. (The latter happened to her daughter.)

For the record dd has passed Level E in Reading and will sit Level E Maths and Writing sometime this term.

[Pinewood15]

The attached link describes all the way to Level F - looks like you are well on target - so shouldn't worry.

www.datadictionaryadmin.scot.nhs.uk/isddd/19234.html

[MadLenny]

I'm a primary teacher in Scotland and it sounds as though your DD is doing well so I would try not to worry too much. If you want more info try contacting the school as they are best placed to talk to you about your DD as an individual.
However, as already mentioned schools should be well on their way to implementing Curriculum for Excellence (3-18) so the 5-14 levels will soon cease to exist. You can get some useful info on the new levels on www.ltscotland.co.uk

[goldndiamonds]

I think, kristina m, that your DD 'only' being at level E, is in fact very good; her 'lovely smallish school with great pastoral care' where 'she LOVES everything - all the kids all her teachers, all her work etc etc' seems to have served her very well. In my opinion, you're only worried because you 'moved house since she started primary - only a few miles down the road' in order to get her to a better secondary than her primary feeds into and you're sweating the possibility that she won't be as up to speed with others at this secondary because her primary isn't being pushy enough for you and what you want for her - 'its [sic] very pushy/results oriented compared with her present school' and 'we are sending her to this huge exam factory where she will be just a number for their league tables...' comments are a bit of a giveaway! Cheer up kristina m and learn to lie in the bed you've made for yourself: it sounds like a very comfortable one, after all!