Do schools get to see preference order - (general nosiness, no reception child)

(18 Posts)
DobbinEweInn Thu 16-Apr-20 12:35:24

This is purely just out of curiousity, but local school is celebrating that x amount of families have made the school their first choice school.

So do schools get to see the order of preference?

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Greenandcabbagelooking Thu 16-Apr-20 12:38:47

No, they don't.

BreconBeBuggered Thu 16-Apr-20 12:41:23

We knew that x number had made us first choice, but not the ranking order of individual applications.

Alwayswithalacrity Thu 16-Apr-20 12:44:00

Yes they do in a way! They know how many have chosen the school as 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Doesn’t mean that those children actually get in though, depends on the criteria

Haskell Thu 16-Apr-20 12:44:32

Only after offers have been made, and then only for the pupils offered their school.

DobbinEweInn Thu 16-Apr-20 12:45:33

Ah I see, that makes sense as thinking about it I've also seen schools with banners stating they're a first preference school etc.

Thank you

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Alwayswithalacrity Thu 16-Apr-20 12:47:48

Not correct Haskell, throughout the application process once uploaded onto the system we can see the proportion of 1st 2nd and 3rd choices

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DobbinEweInn Thu 16-Apr-20 12:53:40

So what happens with applications where the school has been put down as a preference at all but they get allocated it, does that get identified in some way?

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Alwayswithalacrity Thu 16-Apr-20 12:59:17

That will only happen when the 1st 2nd and 3rd choices for that child we’re not available but the School in question is the nearest one with spaces left

GolfForBrains Thu 16-Apr-20 13:00:58

Do you mean "hasn't been put down as a preference" Dobbin? If so yes, they are known as centrally allocated places. This info is also available to the public here when our LA publishes the stats for how places were allocated for each school - how many applications for how many places, how many fell into each category of that school's admission criteria, and then how many were centrally allocated.

Haskell Thu 16-Apr-20 13:06:00

Perhaps in your authority @Alwayswithalacrity. We don't get that (but our LA is utterly dire and the system they use is out of the dark ages)

DobbinEweInn Thu 16-Apr-20 13:06:22

Yes, I mean when the parent applied on time and has used all allowed preferences but gets allocated a school they didn't put down. Does the school see they weren't on the list of preferences at all?

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Alwayswithalacrity Thu 16-Apr-20 13:24:47

@Haskell wouldn’t you think all LA’s would be using the same/similar system by now? Ours has been running this program for about 5 years. The 1st couple of years we could just see the children’s main details but then it changed and allowed us to see a pie chart of 1st 2nd and 3rd. Ours is a very small school (PAN 18) and it is handy to assess the possibility of oversubscription Etc

Charmatt Thu 16-Apr-20 13:47:50

We are told how many 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th preferences we have but don't know individual application preferences. We can now see who has been given a lower preference because they will remain on our waiting list.

HandfulOfFlowers Thu 16-Apr-20 17:29:29

No school ever gets to see the individual preference data of anyone who applies or is admitted. They only see summarised data, ie number of people who listed it first, second, third, etc.

Haskell Thu 16-Apr-20 17:47:23

@Alwayswithalacrity 18 PAN? shock we have schools here with PAN of 240! (Primary)

@HandfulofFlowers I assure you, the files we get from LA put what preference we were against the pupils offered. I'm in secondary, doubt that makes a difference though.

cabbageking Thu 16-Apr-20 17:59:54

We know after they are allocated but it is of no interest to anyone.

happymummy12345 Thu 16-Apr-20 18:01:09

@Haskell the school my son is going to has 1 class per year group, the number in reception this year is 16. It's a lovely small school. So glad he got in.

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