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Any KS1 teachers about to explain greater depth please?

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NC4T · 04/07/2018 17:58

Just got DSs year 1 record of achievement home. Seems he has done fine and has achieved quite a few of the competencies "at greater depth". Just wondering what that means (aside from the obvious)..... is it something every averagely bright kid should be getting or is it not that commonplace or what really? Many thanks for any insight.

Also, he has achieved nearly every Maths competency at greater depth but only made "average" progress. He was not great at Maths going in to year 1 so just wondering if anyone had any ideas?

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stationthirteen · 04/07/2018 19:49

I'd quite like to know how commonplace greater depth is too!

DD (yr2) hasn't had her end of year report yet but in the mid year one it said she was on track to achieve GD in reading, writing and maths. I do know for yr2 you can look the framework up online to see what they have to be able to do. I'm not sure if there's similar for yr1 as think it's the end of KS1 expectations.

Re the average progress. We had the same at end of yr1. From what I can gather it means they have made the expected progress rather than surprised anybody. So if your DS got exceedings at the end of reception and now GD it would be classed as average progress. I think that if they're consistently higher ability it's difficult for them to say that they've ever made good progress.

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NC4T · 04/07/2018 19:53

He did get all exceedings at end or year reception so that probably explains it, thanks.

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user789653241 · 04/07/2018 20:21

Don't know about Literacy, but for maths, this site can tell you the difference between mastery(expected) and mastery with GD. It's quite challenging, so well done to your ds. It means he has deeper understanding of maths, rather than just knowing what to do with numbers.

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/23305594/Mastery_Assessment_Y1_Low_Res.pdf

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Specky12 · 04/07/2018 20:29

My year 5 child has had greater depth for English, Math & Science since curriculum came in. He is bright but not a genius, works hard and does homework and is intelligent, but I wouldn't say it's a gifted and talented sign...

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NC4T · 04/07/2018 21:12

No, I don't think DS is G&T. He is bright and articulate and suits school.

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user789653241 · 04/07/2018 21:39

Well, but he has got a potential if he understand the works deeper than others at this young age.
They don't call them G&T any more, they call them high learning potential(HLP) these days. Just keep feeding him with his interests.

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PitterPatterOfBigFeet · 05/07/2018 11:02

Greater depth certainly doesn't imply HLP (although obviously doesn't rule it out either). It isn't unusual at all to have greater depth but a good sign that he's getting on well at school and is very comfortable with everything covered so far.

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lonelywolf · 05/07/2018 18:39

About 10% if my last KS1 cohort achieved greater depth in all 3 areas (reading, writing, maths). Many more achieved it in some of the subjects but not all 3. 60% of the cohort achieved it in reading, 30% maths and 25% writing. That was a very bright, middle class cohort (very supportive parents). They were the best results in our LEA for those reasons. Will be much lower than that this year. Really depends on the cohort at the time as to how common it is.

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NC4T · 05/07/2018 20:23

Thanks lonely, that's great. We are quite a middle class school although did really badly in yr 6 SATS last year.

I am not sure if he got GD overall..... they had split the RoA into English and Maths.... English is 18 competencies and he had GD in 10, Maths he had GD in 15 out of 18. Science and Computing were also broken down into 5 or so competencies, he had GD in 3 or so. Other subjects were just overall, and he had GD in Music, PHSE and RE.