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Early years foundation stage outcomes

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softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 18:41:14

Please could someone link to the current early years foundation stage levels eg. 30-50 months? I've googled but I'm not finding anything official, just loads of twinkl resources.

Also please could someone explain what "working within the level" means?


softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 18:45:04

Also please could someone explain to me what it means if your child is working within 30-50 months? Does it mean they've achieved everything within the previous levels, and are now doing some of the things in the 30-50 month level?

Sorry I'm totally clueless confused

wetsnow Mon 30-Oct-17 18:57:27

Google development matters. It's the first pdf.
If they are within 30-50 months they have achieved some things in that level but still working on others.

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 19:30:56

Ok thanks I found it!

so...for a child to be working at 30-50 months, they've achieved everything at 22-36 month level (and the ones before that) and some of the things from 30-50 month level?

Can anyone help with this hypothetical situation:

A child hasn't achieved all the things from 16-26 months or 22-36 months but can do one thing from the 30-50 months level - what level are they working at?

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 21:35:27


Snap8TheCat Mon 30-Oct-17 21:37:11

16-26m. Isn’t that a given? Not sure if I’m misunderstanding your question.

Snap8TheCat Mon 30-Oct-17 21:38:18

Also EYO isn’t a checklist- it’s a ‘best fit’. Opinion and experience usually tells you where the child sits best.

NamesNamesAndMoreNames Mon 30-Oct-17 21:50:41

Said child would be working within 16-26 months. Being able to do one thing in a further up level doesn't mean they are within that level.

Like PP said, it's a best fit smile

What it might do, is help you see strengths your particular child has. EG my DS is in a lower bracket for the area related to gross motor skills, but a higher bracket than his age for communication. (Not sure I needed the ''paperwork" to know this though, was fairly evident to me that talking is his 'thing' and anything physically demanding is, well, not!)

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 21:52:51

No you understand me! I literally have no clue how it works, which is why I was asking.

What does "it’s a ‘best fit’. Opinion and experience usually tells you where the child sits best" mean? Does it basically mean they can just guess? Or make it up?

I'm not being rude, I'm just wondering how my 3 year old DS managed to achieve working at 30-50 months for speech and understanding when he can't hold a basic conversation, doesn't understand or answer questions, can't follow all but very basic instructions.

ElizabethShaw Mon 30-Oct-17 21:55:14

It would depend - a child doesn't need to be doing everything described in 16-26 months to be working beyond that band. Its a best fit, so a description of a typical child. A child doing many of the things/similar things to 16-26 might be a better fit for 22-36 months.

ElizabethShaw Mon 30-Oct-17 21:58:14

Yes, its a practitioner judgement - they read the statements for each age band and decide where they think the child fits.
If your opinion/judgement is very different to the key person then I would make an appointment to discuss it.

NamesNamesAndMoreNames Mon 30-Oct-17 22:02:11

Agree with PP, if you disagree, make an appt to discuss it. I'd happily talk it over with you if I were your child's key worker. Do you have concerns RE his speech etc? Might be worth getting in touch with a HV if you do. For a second opinion if nothing else.

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 22:03:34

Oh I will be making an appointment. I'm just trying to understand how she reached that conclusion! I was hoping there was some logic to it that I'd somehow missed.

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 22:05:13

He has a speech therapist already, has done for nearly a year. Oh and he has diagnosis of ASD. It's not like the teacher isn't aware of his difficulties confused

NamesNamesAndMoreNames Mon 30-Oct-17 22:08:11

That does sound bizarre, I would not expect a 3 year old with a speech therapist to be working at the 'expected' level for their age... Otherwise, why would they require a speech therapist!

Is his speech therapy and ASD diagnosis all done via the NHS?

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 22:10:25

Yes both NHS

softmachine Mon 30-Oct-17 22:15:41

If you met him you would think it was even more bizzare confused

He's also got 30-50 months for managing feelings and behaviour which is the biggest joke ever!

Kanga59 Wed 01-Nov-17 22:00:24

The setting is under pressure/ may feel compelled, to show that progress is being made. I would ask the SALTs opinion on where he is at with his speech. And look at his learning journal, can the setting support the bracket they say he is in?

softmachine Wed 01-Nov-17 22:27:59

I don't think the setting have any clue on how to apply the EYFS guidance unfortunately. That was apparent from the meeting I had with them. They are a specialist setting, I don't know if this makes a difference.

I'm pretty sure they just can't make it up to suit their figures angry

I don't need the SALTs opinion. We already have several SALT reports, and a ed psych one which incidentally put him at 16-26 months only 4 months ago.

Having had time to go through the guidance I would say he's started working within 22-36 months, at best.

His understanding is particularly poor. I would say he understands less than your typical 24 month old, he's 45 months now.

I am so, so cross with the nursery.

Supermagicsmile Thu 02-Nov-17 06:25:22

sadly falsifying a child's progress to suit their figures isn't uncommon (atleast around here.) when we were choosing a nursery for dd1 we found one that seemed good but an acquaintance that worked there said don't. They are 'outstanding' and have great data but the children seem to leave with very poor skills in all areas sad and they just write their levels to suit their data shock

icklekid Thu 02-Nov-17 06:28:00

Google every child a talker it's an older resource but contains more specific guidance around speaking at different bands which might be helpful. But as others have said. Being able to do one thing from 30-50 months doesn't mean that's where they are working at!

icklekid Thu 02-Nov-17 06:30:25


Dsmummy Thu 02-Nov-17 07:07:21


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