What's a 'din'?!

[HashtagTired]

So my reception year dd is bringing home books to read, and two she has read in the past week involve the word ‘din’?

Who’s Tim? And what is his ‘din’?!

[ThursdayLastWeek]

A din is an unpleasant noise isn’t it?

Does that fit?

[MrsHathaway]

Loud noise, cacophony.

Early phonics books are utter shite. You have my sympathy.

[fleshmarketclose]

Din is loud noise.

[thecatfromjapan]

noun - noise?
verb - to 'drum' something into someone
colloquial - shortened form dinner, usually used twice - hideous.

But didn't you google it?

[thecatfromjapan]

I'm guessing you'll meet Tim a lot, also Pip, Pam and Zip.

[MrsHathaway]

Ugh I even know the book you mean. Isn't the child being ignored by all the family until he turns up with a recorder or trombone or something? Twat.

[HashtagTired]

Tbh I haven’t got to Tim and his din yet. We’ve just got through the alpha blocks one about a cat and a dog and on the last page it mentioned din.
I think they just shoved the word in. I then pulled out the next book, Tim’s din, and spotted the theme.
I didn’t even reach for google. Clearly.

[thecatfromjapan]

Was it less a search for a word definition, more of a cry for help from within a slough of (phonics-induced) despond?

[jamdonut]

Quite a few Year 6 didn't know this word when doing a Ted Hughes poem in literacy the other day! I was a bit shocked tbh.

[noblegiraffe]

I think I know Tim's Din, is it the one where Tim makes a din while Dad naps and the next page is 'Dad is mad'? With an amusing picture?

Got to take your entertainment where you can get it with these books.

[HashtagTired]

I think you nailed it thecatfromjapan

[DontbeaDickaboutit]

If you’re from Portsmouth, it means an idiot!

“Don’t be a din!”
“The cat was being a din, so I’ve put him in the garden.”
“He’s dumped Lou, serve her right for being a din.”

Or, obviously a loud noise and in your case, a good example of basic phonics.

[DontbeaDickaboutit]

So you can imagine our delight, as parents, when our reception aged children bring home books called “What a din!” and “The Din downstairs!”

Immature

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

That's the one, noble. Then they both fall asleep and Sam starts making a din.

[DustyOwl]

Oh those books are horrible. I teach in reception. I have lost count of the number of children who sound out the word "din" with such pride and then realise they haven't got a clue what it means. Even the plot twist at the end, where cheeky Tim is now sleeping and naughty Sam is going to tap (bang has too many phonemes in it) does not save it.
Have you got on to Kat and Dan with cogs? How many 4 year olds play with cogs in a tip?

I think I need a new job.

[MrsHathaway]

Perhaps we could prime preschool teachers to introduce typical st1 phonics decodable words into conversation throughout the 3+ year so all of Reception are already au fait with tip/din/tap and other CVC constructions

[Norestformrz]

“Early phonics books are utter shite. You have my sympathy.” You’ve obviously not experienced the joys of the alternative Look and Say books. Page 1 “Look!” Page 2 “Look!” Page 3 “Look!” Page 4 “Look!” Page 5 “Look!” Page 6 (you’ve guessed it! “Look!” Next Book Page 1 “Here” Page 2 well you get the picture

[Rainatnight]

Jesus. Dreading this now. Hate hate bad reading books.

I used to do volunteer reading tuition at an inner city girls secondary and the books they were given as 'readers' were totally shite. I brought in my own books and (good quality) magazines and they became SO much more interested.

[Norestformrz]

The problem is that most babies can’t run before they walk and most 4 and 5 year olds can’t read the same books as adults or even 6 year olds so they’ve got to learn and as in most thing we start from simple and progress to more complex.

[shhhfastasleep]

Sorry but I think you need a dictionary.

[Norestformrz]

I think MrsH May be onto something. I’m often shocked by children’s receptive vocabulary. It’s recognised that many more children are arriving at school with poor Language skills/knowledge than in past years so something needs to done.

Dusty don’t you have

[HashtagTired]

Great contribution; very helpful shhhfastasleep 👍🏻

[MrsHathaway]

I think I have an idea of some beautifully illustrated books with interesting stories and the odd decodable word highlighted for the child to read:

Captain Poppy gave the cat a gentle pat and he stretched his back.

Then a classroom with six extra TAs to lead the children cosily through the book. Eventually more and more words would be decodable until the child is reading all of it.

[Norestformrz]

“Captain Poppy gave the cat a gentle pat and he stretched his back.” The whole lot is easily decodable after a few weeks.

[Norestformrz]

I would hope they understand cat 🐈 if English is their home language