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Teacher Shouted at DD - thoughts/perspective needed

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time4chocolate Fri 07-Mar-14 21:15:37

Evening Ladies - need thoughts on this incident today. Have posted about DD (year 6) before but need to post again. DD has always been behind at school and diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder last year. She has said she would really like to leave primary with a level 4c in Maths and English (entered year 6 at about a 3c/b in both). She lacks confidence particularly in Maths so she has been going to a tutor to try and help her as she would be over the moon to reach her goal. Anyway, she sat a Maths test yesterday and had already told me she ran out of time to do all the questions. Today in class teacher went through everyone's test results and got very cross and shouted at one boy for not doing well and ripped up his paper and then shouted at DD for also not doing well until she started to cry and then teacher said to everyone in the class "it's teacher you should feel sorry for not DD" (this was confirmed by two of DDs friends who came running up to me after school to tell me about the day's events).DD said to me she tried her best but just ran out of time. She is now worried about the next test and that she will get shouted at. It is such a shame as she felt she was doing much better at Maths since we started with the extra tutoring and I feel we have now taken a big step backwards confidence wise. I know teachers are under pressure with SATS but to shout at DD, who struggles to keep up, in front of whole class was over stepping the mark. Just wanted to get perspective/views on this whilst I try and decide how/what to do next. Thank you

TheRoadLessTravelled Fri 07-Mar-14 21:19:07

Have a meeting with the SENCO about DD getting extra time in SATs. Sounds like she would be eligible.

Sam100 Fri 07-Mar-14 21:21:43

That is out of order. I would follow school procedures. Ask for an appointment with the teacher. Ask them why they felt it necessary to shout. Then file a complaint. This is not good teaching practice.

colditz Fri 07-Mar-14 21:21:45

See the head. That's disgusting behaviour.

bluewisteria Fri 07-Mar-14 22:00:42

Err, I would go completely apeshit. Then calm down and go and see the head. Preferably with my partner or support. What a cock. Terrible teaching aside from making a small child feel terrible. What a big man.

Poor you and your daughter. Take her out for a treat, a nice time the two of you.


time4chocolate Fri 07-Mar-14 22:07:13

Thank you for quick responses - I am going to ask for a meeting and probably follow up with a written letter. I am just so cross as she was working/trying so hard and she was feeling much more confident and was enjoying her tutoring and said she was learning lots. This one incident by a teaching professional has now completely wiped that confidence. She is now extremely worried about the upcoming SATs practice papers which is just what we wanted to avoid. I so wanted her to be able to start secondary school with a higher self esteem and confidence in her ability - I could scream!!!

bluewisteria Fri 07-Mar-14 22:12:40

I know this isn't ideal, and depends on finances, but would you be able to afford a tutor once a week? Not so much to help her academically, although she would have that too, but choosing someone who makes her feel confident in herself to get the most out of her abilities?

Don't get me wrong, you shouldn't have to do this, this situation should never have occured.

It would have to be a tutor really, a relative or friend who could commit the time?

bluewisteria Fri 07-Mar-14 22:14:09

Wouldn't have to be a tutor, sorry on my phone

Perhaps the school should be offering the extra suppor.t in light of this

ivykaty44 Fri 07-Mar-14 22:17:11

Op says her dad goes to a tutor already

bluewisteria Fri 07-Mar-14 22:22:23

Yup, missed that.
I'm really sorry for her, hats off to your daughter for wanting to work do hard and achieve. It makes the teachers actions all the more disgusting.
I'm actually really really shocked that happened.

Retropear Sat 08-Mar-14 08:36:52

Erm yes another one who would have gone batshit.

I'm all for pushing kids but kids need to relax in tests and feel comfortable.It has been shown that getting stressed isn't good.

I hate this last minute panic with year 6 Sats.It shouldn't be needed and that is down to the school.

Give her masses of reassurance that you will be proud whatever,that she has worked hard and she can only do her best.Over and over again.

cloudskitchen Sat 08-Mar-14 09:18:35

I would be mad. I would by pass her abd go to the head if year, or if she is this then the head of the school. That is completely unacceptable.

PurpleAlert Sat 08-Mar-14 10:38:21

Is your DD on the SEN register at the school? If she has slow processing she should get extra time- I really would see the SENco as a matter of urgency as extra time needs to be applied for in advance of the tests.

Is this teacher aware of your DDs SEN? Hard to believe that any teacher with knowledge of a pupil's SN and a modicum of compassion would behave in such an atrocious manner.

I know teachers are under immense pressure to get results (especially since they brought in performance related pay) but there really is no excuse for this with a pupil who has SN and is obviously motivated.

mrscog Sat 08-Mar-14 10:41:54

Firstly, maybe see if your dd is eligible for extra time.

Secondly the teachers behaviour is disgusting (and would be so far any child). See the head.

ChocolateWombat Sat 08-Mar-14 10:44:13

I would not to mad. I would request an appointment with the school to enquire what happened Nd keep an open mind until then.

time4chocolate Sat 08-Mar-14 10:57:51

Thank you for advice - yes she is on SEN register and I even had a meeting with said teacher who confirmed to me that extra time for DD has been applied for with regard to SATS. Will try and keep a cool head next week but, I am finding it difficult to see how this incident could be seen as an acceptable way of dealing with things and anything but productive/beneficial to DD (I want to say quite the opposite and could be hugely detrimental, but don't know if that's maybe an over reaction - time will tell I suppose). Thank you

glinda Sat 08-Mar-14 11:05:16

Awful practice - but, unless the teacher is generally sadistic, I would guess that she is cracking up under the strain. It is VERY common at the moment. Teachers AND children are suffering under the current education system.

wheresthebeach Sat 08-Mar-14 15:12:07

I agree it sounds like a teacher not coping. But that's no excuse. They need help and the school needs to step in ASAP to fix this. I'd see the head, express my concern re damaged DD's confidence and make it clear that formal complaint will follow if anything like it happens again.

TheBuskersDog Sat 08-Mar-14 16:54:21

Whilst it's not the OP's concern, the way the teacher treated the other child is way out of order too.
As for saying the children should feel sorry for the teacher, it's bad enough children worry about how they do in SATs for themselves without expecting them to do well for the teacher's benefit.

adoptmama Sat 08-Mar-14 16:58:29

Teacher's behaviour is disgusting, unacceptable and unprofessional. Doesn't matter if she was having a bad day or anything else. No matter what kind of bad day I have had at school it would never be considered acceptable to berate a child to the point of tears over their test scores. What she said was nasty and showed a total lack of professional judgement. As a parent I would be furious, especially at how it could undermine your DDs already fragile self confidence. I have given many a child a telling off before for lack of effort, cheating, poor behaviour etc. I have never taken satisfaction in having a child cry, would never single out children like this in front of an entire class or rip up a test paper (unless the child had cheated). Complain.

RockMummy Sat 08-Mar-14 18:50:28

At the school where I work children such as your daughter would have a TA sitting with her during her SATS to help her stay calm, encourage and keep her focussed. It's a system which works well. Hope she gets some support during this stressful time in her school life.

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