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Primary school reading levels - can't convert them!

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litdog Tue 13-Nov-12 14:14:01

Our primary school seems to have reading levels that do not correspond to any guide I can find on the internet. For instance, they started in Reception on Level 0 and were on an average of Level 10-12 when they started Year 1. When I look on the net, I see people talking about much lower levels and obviously we are on a different system.

I am not being competitive - our (state) school is lovely but pretty representative I should think. I would just like to know how my lot are doing compared to the national average.

Does anyone know of a chart that sets all the different reading systems together so you can work them out?


numbum Tue 13-Nov-12 14:18:47

Do you have titles for any of the books (and how school have levelled them)?

redskyatnight Tue 13-Nov-12 14:36:16

Reading recovery levels?

See (e.g.)

wigglywoowoo Tue 13-Nov-12 14:49:29

I agree with the reading recovery levels. The link above isn't working for me so I don't know what it shows but I like this one.

SourMilkGill Tue 13-Nov-12 15:10:16

Wigglywoowoo - I can't get that link to open, is there a title for it I can google?

litdog Tue 13-Nov-12 16:14:31

Thanks all. DS has come home tonight with a book called The Old Vase - and while the school has put a sticker on it saying Level 19, I see it says Level 7 on it. So maybe I can google that...

Wigglywoowoo - thanks for the link, it worked.

God knows how the school decides which of their levels the book is. I find it all rather confusing.


mrz Tue 13-Nov-12 18:16:01

Most definitely Reading Recovery Levels hmm

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:34:28

Hrees how it matches up to nc levels and common reading schemes.

dds new school is bug club and unsure how their levels work

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:34:44

mrz Tue 13-Nov-12 18:39:32

Bug Club uses standard book banding colours

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:57:04

thanks mrs z the catual book is orange level 6 i think,
she was on ginn level 5.
the online books read wallance and gromot snomantotron last night have no idea were some quite tricky words in online bug club books picked.

mrz Tue 13-Nov-12 19:12:46

Wallace and Gromit Snowmanotron does contain some difficult words - competition- invention which require a child to have been taught/know that <ti> is a way to spell the sound "sh". Ginn are look and say

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:25:48

I did think it was quite challenging but she docoded ok and enjoyed earning bug points.It seemed harder than the ginn level 5.

The 2old fashioned books one is called colourful creatures non ficton which she enjoyed says orange b 16 phase 5.

The other one is called wright skills publisher small seasons non fiction so impressed by much wider range of books they giving her and moving her away from her old obsession with levels.

my freinds infants use reading recovery she says its quite good.

I guess diffrent schemes teach diffrent skills and suit different children dont think new school has rc but has ort,songburds, ginn bug club and few others quite confusing for parents took them ages to band into levels.

wigglywoowoo Tue 13-Nov-12 20:26:35

The title to search for would be 'Progression of successful text reading through KS1 & 2'

mrz Tue 13-Nov-12 20:42:33

Ginn is a very old scheme and doesn't match current teaching methods
Reading Recovery is an intervention method for struggling readers developed by Marie Clay in New Zealand independent research questions it's long term effectiveness once 1-1 tuition ceases.

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 20:59:38

see to me reading recovery sounds like an interevention yet freinds infants use it low performing inner city school- unsure how large or small a group they teach in.

Agree gin ancient as the new ginn books look even older and battered 1982 was last version we got but dd prefers them to ort.

wigglywoowoo Tue 13-Nov-12 21:20:34

My DD's school use it and have a reading recovery teacher who does 1:1 interventions with children who are struggling. The rest of the school just reads through the levels like in any other school.

She gets to read from a wide variety of schemes which have been RR levelled and the only thing that may be slightly different is that even though she is an able reader she is heard read twice a week, once by the teacher and once by the TA as per school policy. I don't know if this policy has anything to do with Reading recovery.

Houseworkprocrastinator Tue 13-Nov-12 21:23:55

That sounds a lot like my child's school reading levels. they are all numbered by stickers the school have put on them but they are all different books from different schemes and different colors. one day she might come out with a book with three stories and quite a lot of writing to a page and the next day it could be one line per page 8 page book. have no idea what they are doing.

wigglywoowoo Tue 13-Nov-12 22:08:00

When my dd started in reception the books were a bit like that but she could read them and thankfully they are a lot better now. DD has always picked her own books from her level so whatever she came home with was her choice.

mam29 Tue 13-Nov-12 23:02:55

From what mrs z says, dds new teacher and few others i think variety is good.

All the new schools books are placed into numbered boxes and child picks what book they wnat to read can read as much as they like so whole book in one night unlike old school.

After dd getting sup upset over levels im glad they doing stuff that intrests her , challenged her and levlels not so obvious when so many reading schemes they can just hopefully enjoy the story.

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