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skybluepearl Sun 17-Jul-11 21:09:39

Not sure what level Sats grammar school children tend to have? Not sure if step daughter would struggle at a grammar school? Surely it's better to be top of comp than bottom of a Grammar? SD has always been just above average - but not strides ahead. Year 5 sats level was 4a.

spanieleyes Sun 17-Jul-11 21:19:41

Depends on the grammar school. I teach in a grammar area where the top 20% go to grammar and the levels can vary widely. Of the 5 boys going this year ( out of 10 in my class) all bar one have level 5's for science, reading and maths, one has level5 for writing too, the other 3 have 4a's. However one boy is going with level 4b for reading and writing and a 3a for maths. He was seriously coached and will struggle.
In some grammar areas which take the top few percent I would imagine straight level 5's are the norm ( although the majority will be heavily tutored too)

Teachermumof3 Sun 17-Jul-11 21:41:57

I teach in a grammar area, too. I would say that children with level 5s in reading/maths are the norm, though obviously not every child that gets a level 5 will pass their 11+.

Your DSD has a 4a now (is that in everything?) so will most likely be a level 5 by the time she sits the 11+ which is a good start. Is it a super selective area? It sounds like you don't want her to go?

skybluepearl Sun 17-Jul-11 21:45:09

Thanks, thats really interesting. SD in year 5 is mostly 4a's but maths is 4b.

skybluepearl Sun 17-Jul-11 21:56:20

The Grammar has a very good reputation in relation to anything academic and caring. She is quite a tom boy and i wonder how she would feel about an all girl class. I think she would concentrate more - presently she has quite a laugh in class with the boys! She isn't very driven or competative - like me. I have always thought that the bottom of a grammar school must be bad for self esteem but could be wrong. If she is more of a middle or lower middle ability grammar child, i would happily send her.

clutteredup Sun 17-Jul-11 22:33:34

My DS got Level 5c for Maths in Y5 and we were thinking maybe Grammar but you have to be careful - I was thinking this is a good grade for Yr5 (MNers exceptional achievers aside) but to try him out I gave him one of those practice papers from WHSmith and he scored just over 50%. There are so many areas he just hasn't covered at school, I can do it with him and he'll probably pick it up, but you can't just rely on SAT figures to say she'll get through, it depends on the school too.

skybluepearl Sun 17-Jul-11 23:03:38

i agree - i'm told there is someone who would tutor SD on how to sit exam if we thought it was the way forward.

thinking i should look at some practice papers.

IndigoBell Mon 18-Jul-11 11:26:31

Also depends if the entry test is maths / english - or verbal / non verbal reasoning.

You need to find that out first grin

sue52 Mon 18-Jul-11 14:55:34

I think everyone who went from DD's primary school had level 5s for English, Maths and Science. I think most of them also scored above 120 for CATs. It sounds as though your DD will probably achieve that in year 6 so a Grammar would be a good choice. There are plenty of tom boys in DDs girls grammar so I wouldn't worry.

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