What is it like for a child to move from Scottish Primary 2, to English Year 2?

[nevergoogle]

Is Year 2 the same as Primary 3?

TIA

[RustyBear]

English Year 2 (from September 2011) is for children born between September 1 2004 and August 2005. I don't think it's directly comparable to the Scottish years because I think Scotland has a different cut-off date for entry.

[RustyBear]

Hang on, that looks wrong...

[nevergoogle]

Yes, so DS has just finished Primary 2. And going by his age, when we move this summer, he will be due to start Year 2.
Will he be ahead with his reading and writing?

[RustyBear]

No, it is right, Year 2 is the year in which they turn 7, so a child born on Sept 1 2004 would be 7 on September 1st 2011.

[nevergoogle]

Just having a look on ORT website. He's definitely read the level 6 books.
(Obviously we will ask the school when we meet them next week, i'm just looking for some clues)

[stressedHEmum]

My nephew moved to England at the end if P1/start of P2. He started in Y1 of the English system and was on a reasonably equal footing with the local children. My niece went at the end of P3 into Y3 and also managed fine and had covered most of the same stuff.

Hope that helps somewhat.

[DorisIsAPinkDragon]

he may be slightly ahead but there will always be children at different stages in the class.

I know that dsis in inverness has children who only did half days for nursery for the year|( don't know if that's the same for you?), so didn't start full time school until they were 5 but DD2 here starts fulltime a month after her 4th birthday, so it's swings and roundabouts.

DD1 will be going into Y 2, she doesn't read reading scheme books anymore but that's different for each school aswell ( they don't do ORT her but do have a lot of Rigby star).

Good luck with the move!

[nevergoogle]

DS2 will start reception either september or january, will need to clear that up with the school. He'll be fine as he already does quite long days at his nursery and manages fine.

DS1 is the one who's just finished primary 2.

Doris, you mean there'll be no more biff and chip and kipper??? good enough reason to move for me! i get what you mean about the varying abilities in the class. To be fair he's good at reading but struggles with maths so I expect year 2 will be just right.

StressedHEmum, that sounds good. Perhaps the only thing that changes is that he'll be one of the older ones in his year instead of one of the youngest.

[letsgetloud]

nevergoogle, - in my experience that will be the only thing that changes.

My dd1 turned 4 in the June we moved to england so started school full time (reception year) in the September. If we had stayed here she wouldn't have started until the following year.

She did reception, yr1, yr2, yr3 (three quarters of yr3) in england. Was always kind of bottom groups. I was hoping when she moved back up here she might have been in the middle groups in her class, as the children in school with her now in Scotland have done a year less than her. Unfortunately she is still in the bottom groups.

Dd2 started school last august here in Scotland. The teacher has told us she is very bright etc. yet her reading books, and in fact all the class's reading books are very low. Children were finishing reception class in england on much higher levels that the kids in the p1 class here.

I had lots of people tell me that reception year in england is much like nursery but I don't really believe it. Dd2 has done much the same stuff in P1 here as Dd1 did in reception in England.

Oh and I was still doing biff and Kip with dd1 in her yr3, but some kids were free readers by then.

[Mum2be79]

P1 in Scotland is equivalent to 'Reception' in England.

P1 = YR
P2 = Y1
P3 = Y2
P4 = Y3

and so forth. (I think!)

[DorisIsAPinkDragon]

Sadly i think Biff, chip and kipper are totally dependent on the school.... very good question for the tour right after do you have a space, what reading scheme do you use.... am I going to be bored shitless every evening for the next three years?

Looking forward to seeing you in this neck of the woods again soon !

[nevergoogle]

can't wait doris x

[mummytime]

Biff and Chip are preferable to most of the alternatives in my opinion, the others either: bored me or were about topics none of us were interested in (football). However they may well move off reading scheme books if they are good at reading in year 2 (well at least here).
The only kids I've known move from Scotland to England, did fine.

[redfoxy]

It all depends where the children's birthday's lie, as my daughter just started P1 in Scotland in August and when we moved to England in October she started went into Year 1. (Her birthday is at the end of May 2005)

This meant that she went from Nursery only 2.5 days a week last year to P1 in August for two months in Scotland then in October into Year 1 in the English System which meant she missed out on the Reception year here, so she was actually in practice quite a bit behind in the foundations of her learning.

In Scotland she came home with the Biff and Chip books for weeks and weeks that didn't even have words in them... that had everything to do with the standard of education in that particular school in Scotland. Thankfully she is now at the second top set in her class so I don't think it matters too much about missing the time. Like it has been said the schools here seem to be pretty good about dealing with children of different levels so hopefully it wouldn't matter.