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Is this true that more pupils from Steiner schools go to universities than from state or private schools?

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Octavia09 Mon 14-Mar-11 17:27:18

I have seen these news somewhere and simply cannot believe in it. It was written that Steiner pupils succeed because they start slowly and then develop hunger to studies and thus do better than kids at state schools for example. I thought that Steiner is just a money-making sect.

thethoughtfox Fri 30-Jun-17 13:39:16

Maybe not.

thethoughtfox Fri 30-Jun-17 13:38:11

Does anyone else think this thread is a sneaky response to the Steiner thread the other day where people voiced their unhappy experiences and everyone was shocked that the Steiner community hadn't tried to shut down the discussion? Trying to plant the idea that Steiner pupils are more successful.

Feenie Fri 30-Jun-17 10:55:03

I agree that a new thread would have been better.

But wow - I've never read an Ofsted report as bad as that! shock

JeffreySadsacIsUnwell Fri 30-Jun-17 07:22:19

ZOMBIE THREAD

nanettawoman Thu 29-Jun-17 14:11:20

Another bit of spin from Steiner schools. See Ofsted reports.ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/ELS/117631

PerryCombover Fri 16-Nov-12 21:45:59

Does the devil hide on corners fango?

seeker Fri 16-Nov-12 21:15:44

grin at Lee.

FanjolinaJolie Fri 16-Nov-12 21:12:54

my DH is one of four children all Steiner educated.

Only one of the siblings went to University, she is very bright and has now done three degrees.

Other sister dropped out of school failed by the system to recognise or diagnose dyslexia.

One brother completed first year but went no further.

Other brother is a qualified builder

restlessnative Fri 16-Nov-12 20:03:26

ladies - things have moved on for this cult

nlondondad Fri 16-Nov-12 18:52:43

@mortimersraven you said

'Megan is as entitled to her opinion as all of you."

Except that Megan said (her opinion was) that other people were not entitled to an opinion! Unless they had actually experienced a Steiner school themselves.

We can have well based opinions about lots of things we have not directly experienced ourselves. In fact most of the true knowledge we have about most things is not derived from our experience, but our experience of other peoples experience......

radicalsubstitution Fri 16-Nov-12 17:23:11

They believe that young children should learn through play.

....which is fine, unless your DS' idea of 'play' is to create a giant traffic jam on the carpet and crash cars into each other. That would not be considered 'healthy' behaviour.

DS would have enjoyed Steiner school about as much as teeth extraction without anaesthetic.

Each to their own - it would not have been for us.

PerryCombover Fri 16-Nov-12 17:04:06

Who believe reincarnated souls enter children at age 7 when they get their adult teeth

Caerlaverock Fri 16-Nov-12 17:01:25

Steiner school is for 'creatives' who are terribly embarrassed by their suburban upbringing and yearn to live through their unfortunate offspring

amothersplaceisinthewrong Fri 16-Nov-12 16:57:29

What is Steiner School>

LeeCoakley Fri 16-Nov-12 16:55:24

I think it's true that lots of Steiner school pupils get into the London School of EcoGNOMEics but I don't know about other universities. grin
<chuckles at own joke>

PerryCombover Fri 16-Nov-12 10:43:53

But they are all about reincarnation, right?

cantreachmytoes Thu 15-Nov-12 23:31:30

People, please listen, not all Steiner schools are the same. I did GCSEs and leaving exams, took a gap year, then started Uni (top UK Uni and my first choice), just like my friends in State and private schools.

Very true though that not all subjects are offered (but physics, biology and chemistry were at mine, as well as maths, english and arty subjects) and certainly anybody interested in computing would be well served in pretty much any other school system!

ChocolateCoins Thu 15-Nov-12 10:09:52

Some people on here are so rude!

niminypiminy Thu 15-Nov-12 10:06:46

I interviewed a girl who had been to a Steiner school for a place on a degree course quite recently. She was bright, enthusiastic, and highly motivated; she had done loads of interesting things at school, including writing directing plays. She was well suited to a place on an English degree (the course I was interviewing for).

However, her exam profile was very poor, and she was applying as a mature student (ie over 21), because she would not have been able to get a place on a degree course at 18. She's doing quite well now, and will complete a degree by the time she is in her mid-twenties.

That's all well and good. It seems clear that this school provided lots of creative opportunities. But what about if your bent is not arts, but sciences? What about if what you are really talented at computer programming? I can't see, from talking to this girl, that her school (though she'd clearly had a good time there)' that the school would have served their needs.

And the lack of formal exams (whatever one may think about the uselessness of exams in principle) did disadvantage her. It was lucky for her that she came to the place I teach, which has a mission to offer higher eduction to adults who may not have formal qualifications. Otherwise she'd have been stuffed.

HanSolo Thu 15-Nov-12 10:00:50

It may be a possibility that a higher proportion of those who finish Steiner schools go on to university (pure conjecture as I've seen no figuresd) but I seriously doubt it applies to all those that start at steiner schools.

Selks Thu 15-Nov-12 09:50:16

Wow some truly spiteful posts on this thread.confused

seeker Thu 15-Nov-12 09:48:09

Most Steiner schools don't do A levels.

There is a Steiner crowd in my dd's excellent 6th form- most of them joined the school in year 10 or 11, and in some cases took an extra year to do gCSEs, which gave them the chance to catch up academically. They will, I suspect, all be qualified to go to university if they want to. But not because they went to the steiner school

cantreachmytoes Thu 15-Nov-12 09:47:01

Just to add that from my year of about 20 pupils, one's an investment banker (no family banking ties), one's a doctor, one an accountant, one publisher, one joined the army, one works with adults with learning difficulties, one an actor, one a musician one a nurse, one a lecturer, one a leading interior designer, some I don't know what they are doing, some full time mothers and some who are essentially bumming around.

It is definitely an alternative system, but it's not a curriculum that produces people who can't go to university, or undertake other further studies and contribute to society.

PerryCombover Thu 15-Nov-12 09:42:49

Personally, I'm down on the reincarnation angle

TheOriginalSteamingNit Thu 15-Nov-12 09:39:25

Well I never met anyone at university who'd been to Steiner school!

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