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Would you risk one steak?

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CookingProblem Tue 03-Dec-19 12:16:34

We always go out for steak on Christmas eve, it's tradition. I'll be 32 weeks pregnant This year. I normally get medium rare but would you risk it just once? I'd get it done medium well.

moreismore Tue 03-Dec-19 12:17:27

I ate medium well steak throughout both pregnancies so... yes! I think the risk is minute, enjoy your meal smile

Heymummee Tue 03-Dec-19 12:19:09

I ate steak medium throughout my second pregnancy and I’m fine. It’s to do with the risk of food poisoning, if you’re confident it’s cooked correctly then you’ll be fine!

Lunafortheloveogod Tue 03-Dec-19 12:23:22

Mine were medium besides two dp cremated.. we lived to tell the tale. But we also frozen ours first (3 days apparently helps kill bacteria too).

Yurtle Tue 03-Dec-19 12:24:13

It’s not to do with food poisoning. It’s to do with toxoplasmosis. From the NHS website: Raw or undercooked meat is risky in pregnancy

Do not eat raw or undercooked meat, including meat joints and steaks cooked rare, because of the potential risk of toxoplasmosis.

Cook all meat and poultry thoroughly so it's steaming hot and there's no trace of pink or blood – especially with poultry, pork, sausages and minced meat, including burgers.

So no pink steak. Up to you about how you judge the risk of course.

Klouise777 Tue 03-Dec-19 12:24:56

Nope I wouldn't. The risk is toxomaplosis (spelling?) causes all kids of issues if you get it while pregnant to the unborn child which normally are discovered later in life. It's not worth the risk. Check NHS website for full clarification.

Klouise777 Tue 03-Dec-19 12:25:11

*kinds not kids

SparkleUK Tue 03-Dec-19 12:25:37

I went to a steakhouse (nearly didn't after having a meltdown worrying!) and just told them I was pregnant.
They suggested how it should be cooked and explained it was to do with the blood so I think as long as it's completely sealed.
The chef's wife had been pregnant recently too so he understood thankfully!

simplekindoflife Tue 03-Dec-19 12:25:45

I think you'll be fine in this country with a medium well steak. I wouldn't go for anything under that though, it's just not worth the risk for one meal?!

PooWillyBumBum Tue 03-Dec-19 12:28:40

I'm married to someone partially sighted due to undercooked beef during my mother in laws pregnancy (toxoplasmosis). My husband will never drive, struggles to see signs at train stations/the television/people's faces more than a meter or so away. So, no!

PooWillyBumBum Tue 03-Dec-19 12:30:25

The "I did it and I was fine" argument will be true for most, obviously not 100% of all mothers contract toxoplasmosis, just as not all drink drivers kill people and not all heavy smokers get lung cancer. Honestly, I'd order something else or get it well done and get a lovely sauce and side to console yourself.

minipie Tue 03-Dec-19 12:31:17

Medium well is fine - it’s not pink. Just get the restaurant to make sure it’s cooked all the way through with no pink left.

Personally I wouldn’t bother with steak that isn’t pink though, it isn’t nearly as nice. Have some (fully cooked) pork or something instead!

Aneley Tue 03-Dec-19 14:59:58

I wouldn't risk it, not for one evening of pleasure knowing what could happen 'if'.

tryagain20 Tue 03-Dec-19 15:49:16

I wouldn't. That toxo whatever illness you can get is really, really serious. Have a read of ' expecting better ' which is actually super balanced and not over the top at all. It explains exactly why this toxo can be such a big deal. I would absolutely avoid anything that could cause it.

Berrylove Tue 03-Dec-19 15:56:39

I had my steak done medium well all the way through my pregnancy, I can’t remember but I’m pretty sure it was nhs that said it’s fine as long as it’s cooked fully on the outside and done properly. The risk of getting ill is just the same as it would be if you weren’t pregnant, just the affect would be a lot worse.

Cohle Tue 03-Dec-19 16:48:55

Medium well is fine but personally I'd just order something else because I hate overcooked steak!

The risk of toxoplasmosis is obviously very small by the impact is so severe that I wouldn't take any risks with it personally.

fonxey Tue 03-Dec-19 16:51:21

It's o one of the did advice i did actually follow. Personally steak isn't worth eatg unless it is properly rare so i haven't had a decent bit of steak for ages.

It's up to you but if have it medium well done if but well done.

Angelinthenightx Tue 03-Dec-19 19:18:09

I would get it well done,you can have your steak the way u want it once your baby is here,its worth the risk no matter how small the risk is.
I gave up steak when i was pregnant as i like it rare,now i have a lovely 6wk old she was worth giving up steak for.its upto u what u do but it may make u worry.

LolaSmiles Tue 03-Dec-19 19:22:37

If you have it medium with no blood seeping out then you're probably ok with a small amount of pink, which can go on one side if it's too much.

If you are only going to enjoy it medium rare then I wouldn't take the risk. It's not worth it.

I also second a PP mentioning the Expecting Better book. Someone suggested to me on here and it's been brilliant for reference.

Spacerader Tue 03-Dec-19 19:23:19

I honestly didn’t even know this was a thing, it has been 13 years since I was pregnant mind. And I can’t really recall eating steak through my last pregnancies.

But, if I was to know I’d go for a medium, anything above that is not worth eating so I’d pick another option. Steak houses tend to do some decent options aside from steak.

Notverygrownup Tue 03-Dec-19 19:24:46

Don't risk it, but get yourself a little notebook. On one page write I O U one medium rare steak. It's a voucher to be cashed in whenever you fancy at any stage in the future, without feeling guilty. Use each page for a different treat - soft cheese, a large glass of wine, a bowl of Chinese prawns - whatever you pass on this Christmas, stick it in your book. Then one day when your little one hasn't slept for a week, it's raining too hard to go for a walk and you have watched The Night Garden on loop for two hours, you dig out your book and choose one of your vouchers to cash in that day . . . .

EstebanTheMagnificent Tue 03-Dec-19 19:51:59

I consider any steak cooked medium or more to be a waste of a cow so I didn’t have steak when eating out. I did, however, eat rare steak which I had previously frozen for at least three days to minimise the risk.

Kinsters Wed 04-Dec-19 04:41:37

I got a blood test to see whether I'd already had toxoplasmosis and it was so worth the money. I found out I'm immune already and it removed a lot of worry.

anxioussue Wed 04-Dec-19 05:11:07

I wouldn't personally because of how bad I'd feel if it did happen

Crawley65 Wed 04-Dec-19 05:14:29

The risk is small but I’d have something else this year. The nagging worry would take away the pleasure of the meal.

BillywilliamV Wed 04-Dec-19 05:17:21

At 32 weeks your baby is fully developed, he/ she is just growing. Toxoplasmosis is I longer an issue.
One of the most valuable things they could teach pregnant women is risk assessment!

Newbie1981 Wed 04-Dec-19 05:18:15

Gosh, def have medium! Its not blue

NoGuarantee Wed 04-Dec-19 05:36:35

I would and did.

Also, whoever said you can't eat soft cheese and prawns - you can. You can't eat mould ripened cheese but cooked seafood is absolutely fine confused

Honeybee85 Wed 04-Dec-19 05:48:09

I also didn’t because of toxoplasmosis risk.
I have friends who did take the risk but I could never forgive myself if something went wrong, after all, it takes just 1 piece of raw meat...
You can take a bloodtest to see if you are immune to toxoplasmosis due to a previous infection.

Idroppedthescrewinthetuna Wed 04-Dec-19 06:04:33

I wouldn't have it medium rare, but if you are going put for a meal I would tell the waiting staff to tell the chef you are pregnant, they should then cook it to what is safe for you.

lifeisgoodagain Wed 04-Dec-19 06:07:55

Never heard of that, I ate rare steak pregnant with mine

lifeisgoodagain Wed 04-Dec-19 06:20:20

But then I ate cheeses, shellfish and raw fish - my best friend is Japanese and she ate it (before I was pregnant) at the time no one mentioned it was an issue, likewise my French friend scoffed at the cheese advice, listeria is very very rare from cheese (salad bags are more risky!)

1Wanda1 Wed 04-Dec-19 06:28:26

I had a steak that was cooked medium at about 20 weeks pregnant. I then worried and worried about it and wished I hadn't. At 28 weeks, I was diagnosed with a problem which can be associated with toxoplasmosis. I then worried myself sick for another 2 weeks until a scan showed baby looked ok. Even then, I was worried about damage to eyesight and other things that couldn't be seen on a scan.

My baby was born absolutely fine. However, eating that steak definitely wasn't worth the worry, and I've never really enjoyed a steak since.

1Wanda1 Wed 04-Dec-19 06:31:16

And the advice from BillyWilliamV that by 32 weeks, the baby is developed and toxoplasmosis is "most definitely not an issue", is definitely incorrect. Toxoplasmosis, caught earlier in pregnancy, can cause more serious defects, or miscarriage, but toxoplasmosis caught later in the pregnancy can still cause damage to the baby, such as damage to the retinas, causing sight loss or blindness.

Lotus90 Wed 04-Dec-19 06:35:25

Not sure why you'd risk toxoplasmosis for your baby. Just have the steak cooked well done, problem solved

BlouseAndSkirt Wed 04-Dec-19 07:53:49

“At 32 weeks your baby is fully developed, he/ she is just growing. Toxoplasmosis is I longer an issue”

Not true according to this medical paper. It seems that in early pg transmission to the foetus is much less likely but of high risk / impact if it does, while in 3rd trimester transmission (if the Mum gets infected) is 60-80% likely, but the impact lower. The baby may be born asymptomatic, but develop eye or brain problems in childhood or early adulthood.

I would steer clear of the steak and avoid houses with cats too. All those kittens in Facebook = fluffy toxoplasmosis risk, (kittens even more risky than cats).

BlouseAndSkirt Wed 04-Dec-19 07:55:57

“then worried myself sick for another 2 weeks until a scan showed baby looked ok. Even then, I was worried about damage to eyesight and other things that couldn't be seen on a scan”
Toxoplasmosis is diagnosed from amniocentesis. It can’t be seen in a scan.

1Wanda1 Wed 04-Dec-19 10:46:01

Many apologies Blouseandskirt for my incorrect recollection of the details of my own pregnancy. In fact, the specific complication I was diagnosed with required a detailed scan and blood tests. I believe that the presence of toxoplasmosis would have been identified by the blood test in the first instance. The scan was to identify other potential issues connected with my condition.

BlouseAndSkirt Wed 04-Dec-19 22:01:46

Been through the big pregnancy scare Wanda: all consuming worry. I’m glad all was well smile

Luxembourgmama Wed 04-Dec-19 22:20:24

I ate rare steak in both pregnancies kids are fine

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