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How does the US election affect us in UK?

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Evvy543 Tue 08-Nov-16 20:42:22

I feel a bit of a dummy writing this, I'm not the best at politics but I do have an interest and I would like to understand smile

Spinflight Wed 09-Nov-16 23:30:44

It's good, possibly even excellent.

Trump is very much an anglophile, his mother was from Scotland and until Nicola Sturgeon srtipped him of it in a fit of pique that she will regret he was a trade ambassador for Scotland.

He's very much in favour of Brexit, where Obama said that the UK would be at the back of the queue ( an American would use the term line here) Trump said that the UK would be treated fantastically.

He's also been highly critical of NATO members not even meeting the minimum criteria of 2% which we do, albeit with lots of dodgy accounting.

noblegiraffe Wed 09-Nov-16 23:37:58

Trump will not support us if Russia kicks off, despite NATO commitments. This is a green light for Russia to flex its muscles in the Balkans even further.

Motheroffourdragons Wed 09-Nov-16 23:44:24

Oh its a terrible result if I'm honest.
Nicola Sturgeon stripped him because he is a numpty of the highest order - he wanted to ban muslims from the US.
He has said he will stop the US UN contribution for climate change in order to do something else like build walls with mexico

He is one crazy man, and it is a sad day today, the world could have done without Donald Trump taking charge of America.

gettingtherequickly Thu 10-Nov-16 00:24:50

Mother said everything.

PoppyPicklesPenguin Thu 10-Nov-16 00:28:10

I am not a fan of trump, nor a fan of brexit


Trump is a fan of the UK, and if the transatlantic trade laws can (as he suggests) be agreed between the UK and the US this will be massive for us as a country.

Hellmouth Thu 10-Nov-16 00:28:51

Everything Mother said. I am deeply disappointed in the result, for the UK and for my family and friends in the US

GiddyOnZackHunt Thu 10-Nov-16 00:32:52

The messages he's given are very mixed. The Chinese have made up climate change. That has consequences for the world. He doesn't want to be involved in keeping the peace around the world (NATO, UN) which has a tiny bit of sense. Except the US has been involved and manipulated world politics hugely for at least 60 years. They're enmeshed and pulling out creates instability worldwide.

lljkk Sat 12-Nov-16 08:59:25

Trump wants to negotiate a "better" nuclear deal with Iran. Trump has poor understanding that it's an international deal done with many partners.

Trump pledged to reverse Obama's deal with Cuba.

Climate change? Doesn't exist. Paris Accord is dead. Long Live King Coal.

Trump doesn't believe in alliances or nation-building. He's said he's willing to consider that US shouldn't come to aid of NATO partners (that means our nearest neighbours). He advocates stability must take priority over human rights. He likes authoritarian govt. and leaders. Make up your own mind what those might mean.

Pic is His 1987 start to presidential campaign.

lljkk Sat 12-Nov-16 09:02:44

ps: his key tactic is "unpredictability": argues US foreign policy has screwed over US interests by being too predictable. This is why he doesn't explain his policies, that would make them predictable. He treats others as opponents & constantly tries to wrong foot them with unexpected moves.

He'll continue to snatch headlines with his predictable unpredictability.
Every time you hear some commentator say "he can't do that" think hard but can he? Probably he perfectly well can and more likely to do it the less other people think he will do it.

derxa Sat 12-Nov-16 09:07:59

Trump is very much an anglophile, his mother was from Scotland No wonder the SNP is doing well.

noblegiraffe Sat 12-Nov-16 11:03:22

Nicola Sturgeon has called his views abhorrent, and says she will stand up to him when necessary.

"She said: "I never want to be, I am not prepared to be, a politician that maintains a diplomatic silence in the face of attitudes of racism, sexism, misogyny or intolerance of any kind."

lljkk Sat 12-Nov-16 11:13:55

Trump cares about his home constituency if he cares about the voters at all he will want to be seen as a very tough negotiator. DT lost the popular vote, after all, and DT will like the glamour side of being POTUS, not want to give it up after 4 yrs. Britain will get no special favours unless DT can show any trade arrangement is a very good deal for USA, too.

Missswatch Sat 12-Nov-16 20:32:40

There's been talk about the UK joining NAFTA

Spinflight Sun 13-Nov-16 01:16:33

I've been pretty active on American sites in the last few months and one thing that comes up again and again surprises me.

When Obama removed the bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval office he didn't just offend us, he offended a very surprising number of the American people too.

Now at first I thought they might be pandering to me, until I realised they had no way of knowing that I was British.

noblegiraffe Sun 13-Nov-16 01:37:32

I dread to think what sort of busts Trump will install in the Oval Office.

I rather suspect that the one of Martin Luther King will be sent packing though.

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