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Do you say "an" historical figure?

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ofhorse Wed 14-Dec-16 15:48:00

Do you say "a" historical figure or "an" historical figure?

I think I would say "an" ... but writing it down here and just musing which is correct.

Thanks.

BdumBdummer Wed 14-Dec-16 15:53:27

I say "an". I am a pedant. Not sure that's a reason to say "an" but it is a reason to write it.

AndShesGone Wed 14-Dec-16 15:54:55

Yes definitely

FilledSoda Wed 14-Dec-16 15:56:18

an

fruityb Wed 14-Dec-16 15:56:21

Words beginning with H should be an. Means those of us in Yorkshire end up saying "a norse" instead of "an horse" lol.

ReggaeShark Wed 14-Dec-16 16:01:09

I would say "a" (but write "an"). I know it's incorrect but I think it's common usage now.

Fink Wed 14-Dec-16 16:02:36

It's a debated point, there isn't one 'correct' answer even amongst linguists. Personally I use an for unaspirated h words (an honourable woman) but a for aspirated (a historical figure, a hotel). I tend to see an historical as quite affected, used by the sort of people who don't pronounce the h in hotel, Hyacinth Bucket types. But I'm aware that some people are taught that it's correct and just go along with it.

SuburbanRhonda Wed 14-Dec-16 16:03:39

It may be in common usage but "a" sounds wrong to me whereas "an" sounds right.

AndShesGone Wed 14-Dec-16 16:04:17

It's not all words beginning with 'h'. You can say 'there's a horse in the field'.

It's not 'there's an horse in the field' is it ? (Sounds bloody weird to me)

YokoUhOh Wed 14-Dec-16 16:06:06

I think we inherited these words from French. The French would say 'un hotel' with a silent 'h', which is why some of us say 'an hotel' (I dont!).

As with most things, both are probably correct.

YokoUhOh Wed 14-Dec-16 16:07:45

Historical = un histoire (a story); l'histoire (history).

FlopsyisaRabbit Wed 14-Dec-16 16:14:38

Personally, I think an is fine if the H is not heard - e.g honour - but if it is, then I use a (a horse etc). No doubt there is probably a proper way, but I generally don't drop my H's when I speak, so an feels a mouthful!

BreatheDeep Wed 14-Dec-16 16:14:54

I thought you use 'an' where the h isn't pronounced so it sounds like the word starts with a vowel. And you use 'a' when the h is pronounced.

A hotel, a horse, a house, a hill, a historical figure
An honour, an hour.

GiddyOnZackHunt Wed 14-Dec-16 16:16:17

Yes to what Breathe and Fink said

ofhorse Wed 14-Dec-16 16:22:47

Really interesting- thanks for all your responses. When I said it in my head, "an" just sounded right, but I wasn't sure when I saw it written down, which started me on my muse...!

museumum Wed 14-Dec-16 16:23:27

I would use a but I say historic like horse with a clear h. I would say an honour and not pronounce the h.

museumum Wed 14-Dec-16 16:25:04

I think I say a HIStoric palace
I've heard others say an isTORIC palace
But I'm Scottish so what do I know about "proper" pronounciation grin

pklme Wed 14-Dec-16 16:47:37

My DM is first cousin to Hyacinth Bucket, and went through a phase of 'an 'ospital' an 'otel'. It doesn't work with words without a French root, like 'horse', and risks sounding like you just drop your aitches, so it didn't last long!

quirkychicken Fri 16-Dec-16 22:32:04

An. An. Always an.

Yamadori Fri 16-Dec-16 22:39:00

'An 'istorical figure' but I drop my aitches anyway.

wishparry Fri 16-Dec-16 23:32:28

Well I'm a bit miffed...I always thought you said an for something that precedes a vowel like:an elephant,an Apple,an idiot,an octopus etc etc.
I thought you said a for something that precedes a constanant.like:a fish,a boat,a house,a potatoe,a kerbstone etc etc.
???

SailingThroughTime Fri 16-Dec-16 23:35:43

I work it through pronunciation rather than spelling and I'm not French.

chipmonkey Fri 16-Dec-16 23:37:52

"An historical" to me sounds correct but twattish. I'm Irish though so have a strained related with the letter "h" at the best of times.

stonecircle Fri 16-Dec-16 23:40:16

I would say and write 'an historic...'. In fact I had to write just that the other day and was irritated to see outlook didn't like it and put a red line underneath. It did make me stop and think, but no way was I going to put 'a historic ...'!

Curious541 Fri 16-Dec-16 23:47:27

I think it's both...

I would say/write 'half an hour' not 'half a hour'

But then I'd say/write 'buy a house' not 'buy an house'

I think it depends on how you're pronouncing it

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