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biuhguygjh Mon 08-Jun-09 20:32:33

My family (adults & children) meeting up with a friend now on the sex offenders register.
I may have to be interviewed by someone from probation IIRC to be sure I understand why he is on register. He is not allowed unsupervised access to children, this will not be unsupervised.

Moosy Mon 08-Jun-09 20:37:10

It possibly depends on why he's on the register and why he's having contact with your children?

shhhh Mon 08-Jun-09 20:48:09

why would you want to put yourself/dk's and this "person" in a situation such as what you are posting about..?

Apologies if I sound wrong but I wouldn't want my child having supervised mixing/visits with someone on the SOR..hmm.

biuhguygjh Mon 08-Jun-09 21:06:58

on SOR because there is no sliding scale of punishment for their offence. incident that put them there is ancient history and frankly mild. I'm willing to forgive a chap for a mistake he made in the past.

kentmumtj Tue 09-Jun-09 00:01:24

think a risk assessment would need to be done by a professional

is there such a thing as a 'mild' when it comes to being on SOR??

ShinyPinkShoes Tue 09-Jun-09 00:10:20

They will be significantly interested so I would expect to be questioned as to the level of contact and the reason for it.

Are you quite sure that you know the full story-in terms of the offence I mean?

SolidGoldBrass Tue 09-Jun-09 00:24:24

It depends very much what he did. For instance, was his offence to do with children? Or was he nicked for kerb-crawling?

kentmumtj Tue 09-Jun-09 00:42:27

there is a sliding scale as it depends on how long he served time for the 'offence' some peoples names remain on them for 5 years some 10 some a life time obviously the more serious the offence the longer the sentance ( we would all hope anyways ) hence the longer they remain on the register.

If the offence was of a sexual nature involving kids i would question why you would place you children at risk by allowing them to see him even if it is supervised as one day these children will grow into teenagers and may well see him withou being supervised as they may not tell you .......this can be a massive risk and i think you need to check it all out throughly and ask a professional for guidance

me personally i would place my childrens safety first and foremost and would not want to have any kind of a friendship with someone convicted of any sexual offence against a child

shhhh Tue 09-Jun-09 09:45:46

thats my point as well kentmumtj...

Not only would I not want my kids in that situation even if supervised, why put the offender in that situation..

excuse me if I sound nieve but its like putting a reformed alcoholic in a pub..? hmm

Just don't understand it. Even if slight risk it would be a big no with me.

shhhh Tue 09-Jun-09 09:45:47

thats my point as well kentmumtj...

Not only would I not want my kids in that situation even if supervised, why put the offender in that situation..

excuse me if I sound nieve but its like putting a reformed alcoholic in a pub..? hmm

Just don't understand it. Even if slight risk it would be a big no with me.

KerryMumbles Tue 09-Jun-09 09:48:14

if he is not allowed unsupervised access to children then it reasons his offense(s) were related to children.

Are you out of your fucking mind?

titchy Tue 09-Jun-09 10:14:57

Assuming his offences relate to young children you are absolutely barking mad to even consider meeting up with someone like this - how can you consider them a friend? OTOH if he's an 18 yo found guilty of an offence with a 15 yo girlfriend then that would probably be OK. However I think this is very unlikely.

LadyAga Tue 09-Jun-09 10:16:29

"He is not allowed unsupervised access to children, this will not be unsupervised"

"there is ancient history and frankly mild. I'm willing to forgive a chap for a mistake he made in the past. "

WTF is wrong with you??? Would his victim(s)and their families share your opinion? Just because he got caught for this one incident doesn't mean it's the only time he has behaved this way and you don't know how far he would have gone had he not been caught.

I would never allow myself to be in the company of a know sex offender let alone my children.

I am horrified by your attitude.

Peachy Tue 09-Jun-09 10:18:36

This is what I was taught in CP training several years ago, it may have changed.

the local policy (so again may differ) was to have the meeting you said, at which you would be asked to sign a form stating you understand. Six weeks later,, if there was still contact kids would be palced on at risk register.

It's not hard to envisage a situation where a sex ofender could use this to his advantage- turn ups oemwhere and use 'friendly presence' to gain access to kids, if you were taken ill somewhere, all sorts-

massive no-no for me I am afraid

Rubyrubyrubyinthegame Tue 09-Jun-09 10:30:39

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

morningpaper Tue 09-Jun-09 10:34:51

This wouldn't worry me at all and I doubt that SS will be remotely interested

The only people that might be interested are if he is still being supervised or is on a 'day pass' type situation - which from what you have said, he isn't.

I don't think it will be a problem at all from that POV.

Peachy Tue 09-Jun-09 10:37:46

MP from a SS perspective, if he is on register then they will be interested

Rubyrubyrubyinthegame Tue 09-Jun-09 10:41:25

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

morningpaper Tue 09-Jun-09 10:42:50

Peachy: Yes I guess if he is on probation then they will! (sorry didn't read properly)

Peachy Tue 09-Jun-09 10:45:44

Ruby yes I think it would, in this case

The SW's who did my training would see it as a deliberate acceptance of a major risk factor and see the child as at risk.

They give you time to sort things out- quite often the offender hasn't even told the person whose kids are in the picture after all- but after a cut offpoint there is scope for serious involvement

SolidGoldBrass Tue 09-Jun-09 10:49:27

I repeat: did his offence involve children? Or was it a matter of him as an 18 year old having a 15-year-old GF and her fibbing about her age? Or was it kerb-crawling or a sex 'offence' involving consenting adults? (Such as getting caught having sex in a bus shelter and being unlucky enough to get busted for it).
If it was child porn or anything to do with a young child then I certainly wouldn't want him near my DC, but if it was having an uncertificated BDSM video or something I would not be bothered.

morningpaper Tue 09-Jun-09 10:51:09

Yes it depends entirely on the reason he's on the register I would imagine

From OP I assumed it was not really to do with children

Peachy Tue 09-Jun-09 10:52:17

SGB would they ban access to kids if it were something as minor as some of the scenarios you describe?

Assuming its kids realted then you'd be a fool if you continue this- SS aren't cruel, they themselves told a story of a 15 year old whose boyfriend was prosecuted even though they got amrried after- but these tales are extremely rare in comparison to all the horror stories 9though I suspect many a paedophile can justify his offence as a mistake hmm)

MadameCastafiore Tue 09-Jun-09 10:52:50

And even if the contact is supervised how do you feel about him maybe sitting there having indecent thoughts about your children or going home and getting off onimages of them he has stored in his warped little mind?

Even if he is not going to be able to touch your children indecently just giving them a hug or passing them a toy could turn him on and that is putting your child in a horrible situation.

SolidGoldBrass Tue 09-Jun-09 10:56:27

I may be wrong but I had the impression that anyone who is on the SOR for any reason is not allowed unsupervised access to children. So this person could be no danger to children at all.

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