Holiday permission

[user1479941108]

Hi, myself and ds are going to Disney land Paris in March, before I booked it i rang and asked his father if he was cool if I took him, he said yeah that's fine asked how long for etc (4 nights)
I was under the impression aslong as it's no longer then 28days you don't need permission anyway. Now I'm confused.

When he collected ds this evening he was talking about a permission letter and what would happen if he wouldn't write me one, as he's worried because it's just myself and ds going and I said what I was under the impression of, well it's less then 28 days and aslong as i take his birth certificate I should be fine.
Is this right?

If not I could ask him to write me one, but what happens if he refuses although he's already agreed for me to take him? And I have messages of us talking about us going to Disney land none of which say I can't take him but in an argument he said "make sure when you take him it's during your time"

I read that you need written permission from the other person with PR unless there's a residency order.
I don't have a residency order as such but I do have an occupation order from April this year (over the house) which states that ds will remain living with me but father will have regular access and over night stays on agreement.
My mum always took us on holiday without permission letters from my dad and was never asked for one.

[uhoh2016]

I have flown on my own with my children several times and have never once been stopped or questioned about it.
Do you share the same surname? The only reason I asked is because my Dad took my baby to passport control with him id been 4hrs with him in my arms by Dad was giving me a break and the person at control asked where baby's mum was as the names were different on the passports. Not sure what would have happened if I hadnt of been there and hed simply been on holiday with grandparents, and this was at passport control on the way back into UK not on the journey out.

[user1479941108]

That's reassuring, nobody I know has ever been asked for a permission letter. Google told me differently 😣 We have different surnames but I was planning on taking birth certificate with me for that.

I've asked him if he could do me a letter just incase over message, he's basically said no (not refusing for me to take him) but more of a what's the point I'm sure you won't need it and be fine... I was like well id rather have it to be safe then sorry... and he said he doesn't see it being a problem and if it is then they can ring him 🙈 so he's just being awkward... hopefully the messages between us of him agreeing to ds going but doesn't see the point of writing a letter will be enough evidence he's ok with it if asked 🙈

[EveryoneTalkAboutPopMusic]

Not sure why you would need permission, I’ve flown with my DC and nobody has ever asked me where the Dad is.

Do you have a Court Order in place for child arrangements?

[WitchesHatRim]

If youvdont have a residency order then yes you do need something that says his DF gives permission to go.

[IfYouDontImagineNothingHappens]

Friends of ours were challenged on this...despite the parents actually flying together!

[Migraleve]

I have never taken a permission letter

[thetigerthatcamefortea]

Not quite the same but I flew with my niece and her mum was not with us.
When coming back in to the uk border control quizzed my about the names being different and who I was to the child and when would she be returning the her mum.
They didn't ask if I had a letter but it did all
Make me a little nervous

[HonestlySomePeople]

My kids have a different surname to me and we travel regularly. It depends on the accepting officer. I have always had to show their birth certificates and on the odd occasion, I have also had to show a letter of permission from their dad as well. Better to be safe then sorry and take one just in case
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[Chaosofcalm]

This might be of interest

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42194140

[user1479941108]

Thanks everyone, if he won't write one for some absurd reason then I'll just have to hope I'm not asked for One, and if i am hopefully the messages between us discussing him agreeing for ds to go will be enough for me to not get in any trouble.