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men are not all bad!

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lunarchick Fri 10-Jun-05 23:37:16

today i was out on the tube and encountered two very lovely men who helped me with my buggy and the stairs! one a very smart looking business man whose suit got rubbed with my tyres! have come to notice in the last few months that it is quite often men who hold open shop doors for me or offer help with stairs etc and not women. why are women so inconsiderate? often someone will hold a shop/lift door for me and a woman will charge through first. when i first had my ds i felt that i had become invisible as a female to the male species (am only 25) each time i was pushing my praqm along but now i realise it is other women who can't see me! what is it? single womens dislike of children?, not wanting to acknowledge there possibility?! surely older women would remember what it was like to have young kids and be more considerate? once i was even on a bus where a mother had been really obstructive about standing up from a disabled persons flip down seat and moving her buggy and herself along a bit so i could squeeze in and then later in the journey started up a conversation with me about how inconsiderate people were when you are out with a baby! come on ladies! can't we do better!

Fran1 Fri 10-Jun-05 23:46:44

Because men are scared of us we have trained them.

Women feel they coped/managed so why do they need to help?

WigWamBam Fri 10-Jun-05 23:48:50

I think on the whole when women are inconsiderate, it's because they feel no-one was condiderate to them when they were struggling with their babies, so why should they bother?

lunarchick Fri 10-Jun-05 23:50:22

my philosophy is that maybe the men are thinking of their beloved wifes/future wives (as in one not a harem ) at home and thinking that if they help out a needy mum then someone would do the same if their wife should need it, karma! the women should think of this more! they may be in a problematic door/stair type situation with their own baby one day and be wishing for help!

lunarchick Fri 10-Jun-05 23:51:10

true wigwambam but sad

chipmonkey Sat 11-Jun-05 00:08:02

I think its that men think mother=madonna therefore worship, women think, "oh for god's sake girl, just get on with it!

Alannah Sat 11-Jun-05 12:21:08

I was at our local train station the other day and had just carried my dd 16mth old in her buggy over the bridge, there was no one around to help, but they never do anyway. Just as the train was pulling in there another woman with a double buggy trying to haul it over the bridge. If I had helped her I would have missed the train and I felt bad about this but incredibly this other young woman just walked right past her. If she had helped her they would have both caught the train, I was really shocked by her lack of compassion - it was like she just didn't even see the poor woman with the double buggy. I couldn't help thinking that a man would have been more likely to help.

snafu Sat 11-Jun-05 12:25:16

Think this is very true. All the times I've lugged ds around London in a buggy, I can only remember one occasion when it was a woman who helped me up stairs or onto trains, etc. And that was a bit of an uncomfortable situation as she had a fag in her free hand and was dangling an inch of ash under ds's nose all the way up a massive flight of stairs...

Fran1 Sat 11-Jun-05 12:38:58

Must say i was impressed on one occasion when i was walking from accross the very long bridge from waterloo east to mainline, i had a very heavy weekend bag and dd in her buggy and was really struggling. A lovely young man offered to carry my bag despite the fact he was already weighed down with his own, and he really struggled don't think he was prepared for how heavy my bag was

So there are some nice people around, but yes they seem to be male!

likklemum Sat 11-Jun-05 12:45:33

Never considered this before, but the more i think about it, the more i agree! When i was pregnant with ds and travelling to work EVERYDAY on tubes and buses, only 2 people EVER offered me their guessed it, both men!

Hulababy Sat 11-Jun-05 12:51:45

I agree that men are generally far more considerate of women when out and about. It is generally men who will hold doors open, offer their seat, let you out in traffic (can't rememebr last time a women did that!), say excuse me if they knock into you, help with pushchair, etc.

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