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BojanaMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 11-May-15 11:29:14

We’re pleased to announce that Jamie Oliver will be joining us for a webchat tomorrow. No stranger to Mumsnet, the father of four, chef, author and campaigner is back as he promotes Food Revolution Day on 15 May. Jamie is campaigning for children to be educated about food, asking for practical food education to be part of the school curriculum across the G20 countries. You can read more about the campaign and sign the petition here.

Do join us on the day here for a live discussion from 12.30 tomorrow but if you can’t make it, leave your question for Jamie on this thread. As ever, please remember our webchat guidelines.

Thanks
MNHQ

chocolateyay Mon 11-May-15 12:00:46

Do you despair of current eating habits - grazing, snacking, breakfast in a bar/bottle, ping and peel dinners?

I know you try hard but can this trend be reversed? British food used to be envied for the quality and variety of its fresh/basic ingredients - now its famous for 'meat' of questionable provenance. Now we are storing up a generation of health issues due to bad diet/overweight kids.

Do we need to start with the supermarkets, farms, importers, doctors, government, advertisers, schools...?

(DS thinks you are brill).

26Point2Miles Mon 11-May-15 12:04:58

Hi Jamie!

great idea,but not enough info! I'd like to know more about how this 'food education' would be taught? what would/should be covered etc.

would it be aimed at older children too.....my own (5) kids ate well whilst I was in charge of the menu,but as soon as they have their own money and are off to college it all somehow goes wrong

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Mon 11-May-15 12:15:57

Hi Jamie - I absolutely agree that children need to learn the basics of cooking. I believe that, if someone learns the basic techniques and vocabulary of cooking (ie. when a recipe says dice this, rub this in, cream this, or saute that, or seal the meat - what does that actually mean), then they can pick up a cook book and follow the recipes far more easily than if they don't understand the terms or have the basic skills.

Do you see this working in tandem with other areas of the curriculum? Ie. maths lessons could look at basic budgeting - to show the children how best to spend their money, to get a healthy diet.

Spirael Mon 11-May-15 12:39:56

Hi Jamie. Excellent idea, but I'm a bit worried the lessons might involve further demonization of food types (i.e. that all fat/sugar/salt is bad) instead of educating about how to use the different forms in moderation for a healthy, balanced diet. How would you get this message across?

I would also be interested to know whether the lessons would include teaching how to understand food labels, so young people can make informed decisions when facing food erroneously advertising itself as a healthy option.

WorraLiberty Mon 11-May-15 13:03:27

Hi Jamie.

I think this is a brilliant idea. Will it also concentrate on showing kids exactly what goes into fast food, tinned hotdogs and cheap nuggets?

It's important to teach them to cook, but it's also important to show them what they're actually eating when they reach for junk food.

Years ago you did a great show on TV where you were on a big stage, and you showed some of the crap ingredients that went into these things.

I really wanted my kids to watch it (they were aged about 7 and 10 at the time), but sadly you kept swearing. This made me have to turn it off and I was gutted.

What little bit they did see though, was a real eye opener for them and they actually stopped nagging me whenever we passed a hotdog stand in the street grin

26Point2Miles Mon 11-May-15 13:04:41

food tech is already on the curriculum though......how about nutrition? what the body needs and why. unfortunately I think there does have to be some form of demonization though,SUGAR I'm looking at you!!

StrawberrytallCake Mon 11-May-15 14:53:57

Hi Jamie! I enjoy teaching my children the value of nutritional food at home. Do you think you would ever be interested in writing a children's cookbook? I've recently purchased the silver spoon for children and it has really inspired my 6 year old dd to cook and try things she normally wouldn't.

We have all of your books in this house and would certainly welcome a children's version!

Suddengeekgirl Mon 11-May-15 15:12:11

Some of the school gate mums and me have noticed that the standard of school dinners has noticeably decreased since September - along side the introduction of free school meals for all reception and key stage 1 children. There's a lot more 'out the freezer, into the oven', stuff now which is a shame as last year (when we paid for dinners) there were a lot more home cooking/ fresh/ from scratch meals.

Do you think that the introduction of so many more free school meals has impacted on the nutritional quality of school dinners nationwide?

As a follow up pushing my luck possibly wink
Do you have information out there for school kitchen staff about how they can produce meals that meet the budget constraints and are nutritious?

Thanks Jamie! grin

woo1980 Mon 11-May-15 15:38:47

If you had only three ingredients to use to feed a gluten free family of three for dinner what would you use?

JoanHickson Mon 11-May-15 15:43:55

Hi Jamie, can you please add some FODMAP friendly recipes please? If you are unfamiliar it is to help with IBS, we use it due to Ehlers Danlos syndrome and Postural orthstatic tachycardia syndrome, of deliciously Ella fame cold cabs, apple, peas and beans are out. Try keeping a child's diet interesting on that diet.

SewingAndCakes Mon 11-May-15 16:29:39

Hi Jamie,

Will you be bringing out a vegetarian book soon? We're all vegetarian in my family but I'm struggling to get the kids to eat protein that isn't processed.... Thanks.

icklekid Mon 11-May-15 17:56:43

Hi Jamie,

Had a fantastic time with my class last year for food revelation day they got so much out of it and loved food they had never tried before. Sadly don't work fridays post maternity leave can next years be on a Monday please?

noushinkananian Mon 11-May-15 18:04:50

What's your point of view regarding Vegetarian? They say two portion of red meat a week is OK! Other's say there is no point of eating chicken and red meat since vegetarian live longer and are healthier than meat eaters. Also there is risk of high blood pressure, high cholesterol, arthritis and etc....What should we do?

Littleham Mon 11-May-15 18:19:43

If you could choose a super power / super ability what would it be? smile

(mine would be time travel)

Cauliflowersneeze Mon 11-May-15 18:35:18

Were you responsible for the demise of Turkey twizzellers

Is so , what was so wrong with them ? theywere----lush

LauraChant Mon 11-May-15 20:16:01

Hi Jamie! We are birthday buddies - I too was born on 27 May 1975.

I love your recipes but my absolute favourite is the fish tagine from 15 Minute Meals. It is bloody gorgeous (even if it takes me more like 40 minutes!). Do you have an absolute favourite recipe?

itsonlysubterfuge Mon 11-May-15 20:35:08

I don't have a question, I just wanted to say that my daughter is 3 and loves cooking programs and we recently watched your Foodtube video with the Furi Moshi Monster and she absolutely loved it! She thought it was very funny. Thank you for the great video and I hope you do some other kid friendly type videos, we would be very happy!

Have a wonderful day!

BoSho Mon 11-May-15 20:38:25

Hi Jamie,

Any tips on cooking for family members with different taste in food?

We're all vegetarian, and my (2 yo) daughter and I would happily eat Asian style, clean food, whereas my husband and son (4.5 yo) aren't keen, and would eat British stodge every day if they could.

I really struggle to find something the whole family will like without resorting to processed meat. Before the kids, we used to make lots of one-pot meals like lasagna, but the kids seem to like their food deconstructed, which makes it difficult to come up with good meals. Any ideas for ways to suit everyone?

Thanks! Keep up the good work. I'd also love you to write a family vegetarian cookbook please!

LineRunner Mon 11-May-15 23:07:32

Do you think schools should supply the required food tech ingredients, given that a lot of parents simply can't afford to buy the groceries in order to supply '2tbsp of olive oil' and '50 grams of butter' etc, or at least offer to supply them for, say, a small donation?

My daughter's school once asked her to bring in about ten types of ingredients in teeny tiny amounts for a risotto. The whole lot cost seven quid. She took in about a tenth of that. But I still had to spent seven quid for one lesson.

MmeLindor Mon 11-May-15 23:49:40

My daughter is 13 years old, and in her first year of high school cooking lessons, she's made soup 5 times. She's also made the most disgusting macaroni cheese EVER, which was prepared using dried milk powder. She brought it home and binned it.

I've been teaching her to cook at home, and she's even making YouTube videos to teach other kids, because we've found that the standard of teaching in schools is often so abysmal. In her report card this year, the teacher says she 'shows potential', because she is confident in cooking her own meals, which I think is a basic life skill.

My question is this - I've mentioned this in school but had no response. How do I go about pushing them to improve their home economics lesson?

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel Tue 12-May-15 08:49:33

Hello Jamie. I really wish you would do a vegetarian book, and also a tv series with/for kids.

My question is:
Where do you stand on the #wewantplates campaign? What is the daftest most original and unusual thing you've ever served food in?

Thank you smile

diggerdigsdogs Tue 12-May-15 09:02:50

I'd love a Jamie kids cooking book too!

My teen step children are coming up to leaving home. What meals do you think are essential for them to learn before they do?

TurnOverTheTv Tue 12-May-15 09:27:12

Hi Jamie, my 10 year old daughter Charlotte is steadily working her way through your books, and has made some amazing meals.

She auditioned for your new kids cookery programme with FreshOne productions in Manchester, but unfortunately didn't get through this time.

It's knocked her confidence a bit, do you have any words of encouragement t for her?

Much love!

TurnOverTheTv Tue 12-May-15 09:29:35

Oh, and what's your favourite junk food treat? mine is a mashed potato sandwich with lashings of proper butter :-)

Margaritte Tue 12-May-15 09:44:15

Hello Jamie,

Another vote for a children's cook book.

I own all of your books already apart from Ministry of Food, which was 'borrowed' & I cant afford to replace yet Are you bringing out any this year?

My other question is how to get a 6 year old to actually eat fruit / vegetables. He refuses, and my other 2 eat whatever they are given, so I cant understand. Its a huge issue in this house, and I really would like to try something that may help (blending / pureeing / hiding / coaxing doesn't work, so please not any of those!)

Also just wanted to say, you taught me how to cook, way back with Jamie's Dinners /Italian, and I continue to be inspired through your books. Huge fan, and I love your work smile

californiaburrito Tue 12-May-15 10:20:37

Hi Jamie-

Thanks for all the work you have done to increase awareness of healthy eating in schools.

I'm one of those awful pushy PTA moms at a inner London primary school. 80% of our children are classified in the lowest categories of social deprivation and in excess of 50% qualify for FSM. Breakfast can be an ice lolly and dinner a box of chips.

Our kids are desperate for practical cooking lessons and it has been their top request for any work the PTA does. Our Heads are would love to offer increased opportunity to cook for the students and to link cooking with other subjects. I would love to help provide this for the school. So, as you can see, we're already sold on your idea for practical food education.

But how are we going to do it? We don't have the money or the space. (I'm currently shopping for a double decker bus to house the library that we lost 2 years ago)

So when you're done kicking ass with your petition, how can you help all of us make it happen?

Thanks

bluerim Tue 12-May-15 10:27:34

Hi Jamie

Any tips for getting a 12 year old boy to eat more healthily? My son's always been a fussy eater, and now that he's at secondary school and has access to a rather junky snack bar in the canteen, seems to eat little but crisps and bright green energy drinks. He's quite sporty and healthy so he's not seeing any immediate problem with it. Having been a 12 year old boy yourself grin what's the best way to persuade him to eat the odd piece of fruit, veg or protein while at school?

We do eat reasonably healthily at home, although he is a fussy little blighter and does love things that are covered in breadcrumbs.

Thanks

Amyyy27 Tue 12-May-15 11:15:24

Hi Jamie,

As a pregnant coeliac disease sufferer I am concerned about my child's school dinners growing up. For those who eat gluten free know how difficult it is to go out for meals etc, I fear in school choices (if any) will be poor.

Do you intend to tackle/ educate about food allergies?

Also, my birthday is coming up and I have always wanted to visit one of your restaurants.. do you cater for gluten free? please please please do! grin

Tanaqui Tue 12-May-15 12:08:21

We love your 15 min meals (dc favourite is the chicken Ceasar, mine is the Swedish meatballs), and have done all the gluten free meals (and some others with adaptations)- how about a gluten free cookbook?

Agree with peopl above that it all goes to pot in the teenage years- what hungry 15 year d can resist doughnuts for 50p in greggs, less than that in lidl! How do you feel about a sugar tax?

PukkaNameChange Tue 12-May-15 12:16:59

Hello Jamie
THANK YOU for coming on Mumsnet

Anyway, my question is how can I encourage the DCs to eat more fruit?
They're not short of veg as a rule but I"m not that big a fruit fan - we buy apples and bananas. I have 4 Dcs and it just seems like a bit of a faff.
blush

As an aside am a massive fan of both your cooking and your wife's fab clothes for all of my DC.

We particularly love the 30 and 15 min cooks (though I do remember having a slightly stroppy moment thinking "It's alright for Jamie Oliver, he doesn't have an outpost of the PontyPandy fire station in HIS kitchen which is why this only takes 15 minutes!")

We made you beer chicken at the weekend - the first time in my life a recipe has looked like the picture grin (I got so excited I tagged you in my instagramblush)

Thanks again - think you're doing great things, have signed your petition and will share.

BoffinMum Tue 12-May-15 12:22:56

Hello Jamie,

Any chance of you writing a cookbook for families and schools of children who need medically specialised diets? I don't personally have any children suffering from this, but I have seen the diet sheets given out in hospitals to other kids and they make your heart sink. Lots of tins and packets and so on, and little about the joy of food. If there was a lovely colourful Jamie-style book with sections on diets for children with renal failure, diabetes, coeliac disease and so on, I am sure this would be warmly welcomed. Go on, you know you want to. wink

Thanks,
BoffinMum x

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:28:50

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RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 12-May-15 12:41:30

Hello

Should be getting underway any minute now - just waiting for Jamie to arrive.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Tue 12-May-15 12:42:58

Hello Rowan - will MNHQ be providing the biscuits, or are you hoping Jamie will bring something delicious? grin

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:43:37

Hi Mumsnet

Mr Oliver here. With you for the next hour and looking forward to answering your questions.

fallenempires Tue 12-May-15 12:46:59

Hi Jamie,
I think that one of the major problems you're up against here is that schools generally see food tech/catering as a lesser subject.
Ds1 is taking GCSE Catering this Summer and despite complaints from both parents and students they have not been timetabled double lessons which as you can imagine impacts on what they can both learn and produce in a limited time (think expensive inedible slop!)
How will you be able to tackle this?
Btw he made your tomato soup for his practical so we're expecting an A* right ��

26Point2Miles Tue 12-May-15 12:49:06

So what's the best choice of 'fast food'? My older kids spend a lot of time out and about, but food choices seem limited to burger and chips

26Point2Miles Tue 12-May-15 12:49:37

Oh hi by the way!! Hope you are well

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:50:31

26Point2Miles

Hi Jamie!

great idea,but not enough info! I'd like to know more about how this 'food education' would be taught? what would/should be covered etc.

would it be aimed at older children too.....my own (5) kids ate well whilst I was in charge of the menu,but as soon as they have their own money and are off to college it all somehow goes wrong

Hi 26Point2Miles

First of all the petition is to get G20 governments to commit to arming our very young children who go to school 190 days a year from the age of 4 to 18 with the relevant life skills to know the bare basics about food and where it comes from and how it affects their bodies. Of course if you want to get into the specifics of what that might look like - that's a massive email. For the last 6 years I've been innovating the primary school syllabi of what should be taught. But in short let's not complicate something very very simple - growing stuff, cooking stuff and enjoying eating it as a group. And through that journey, finding as many excuses as possible to recognise foods, enjoy foods and of course enjoy all of the other subjects, maths, history biology geography through food. Ultimately when diet-related disease is the biggest preventable cause of death in the country and one in four kids leave primary school overweight or obese, for me and for most parents, food education in schools is essential, logical and just the right thing.

26Point2Miles Tue 12-May-15 12:52:34

Absolutely! I forsee lots more school trips to farms and garden centres then! That's not a bad thing.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:55:06

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius

Hi Jamie - I absolutely agree that children need to learn the basics of cooking. I believe that, if someone learns the basic techniques and vocabulary of cooking (ie. when a recipe says dice this, rub this in, cream this, or saute that, or seal the meat - what does that actually mean), then they can pick up a cook book and follow the recipes far more easily than if they don't understand the terms or have the basic skills.

Do you see this working in tandem with other areas of the curriculum? Ie. maths lessons could look at basic budgeting - to show the children how best to spend their money, to get a healthy diet.

Hi there. The last question has covered a few of your questions. Forgive me if you know this already but how collateral or resources work in schools is that the government set the ciriculum and then multiple commercial companies and/or teachers create the content that fulfil that ciriculum, and they're all trying to get into schools to create that content.

So you're absolutely right - it's important the kids learn about budgeting and nutrition as well as cooking and ultimately make good food relevant to them where they live and accessible.

And also, not to footgear the last time I checkd 70% of 11-13 year olds come home to empty home and fix themselves some supper. So it's just sensible life skills.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:57:00

Spirael

Hi Jamie. Excellent idea, but I'm a bit worried the lessons might involve further demonization of food types (i.e. that all fat/sugar/salt is bad) instead of educating about how to use the different forms in moderation for a healthy, balanced diet. How would you get this message across?

I would also be interested to know whether the lessons would include teaching how to understand food labels, so young people can make informed decisions when facing food erroneously advertising itself as a healthy option.

Hi Spirael

On a personal level and professional level being explicit and clear and also fair and relevant to kids is super super important. Too much salt is bad -fact. But using a little to make to enjoy and love veggies and whole nutritious foods is great. So you're right we need to teach where the line is but to be honest, just cooking fresh foods and whole foods and referencing growing, farming, seasons, and the joy that is cooking normally sorts out a lot of the issues with fat salt and sugar because they are often used to excess in processed foods. But I'm with you 100% on your point.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 12:58:38

icklekid

Hi Jamie,

Had a fantastic time with my class last year for food revelation day they got so much out of it and loved food they had never tried before. Sadly don't work fridays post maternity leave can next years be on a Monday please?

Hi icklekid. Thank you for getting involved. Sign it and share it, and you've done your bit this year! You can now access the Jamie's lesson video at anytime.

PukkaNameChange Tue 12-May-15 12:59:24

Ooh thought of another quick question

Spiralisers - FAB or FAD?

grin

BoffinMum Tue 12-May-15 12:59:27

Maybe we should be sending kids home with a decent dinner to heat up for themselves if they are facing empty homes and a microwaved pizza every night.

MmeLindor Tue 12-May-15 13:01:12

Jamie
"70% of 11-13 year olds come home to empty home and fix themselves some supper".

That can't be right, surely? Do you mean a snack or their evening meal?

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:03:12

Cauliflowersneeze

Were you responsible for the demise of Turkey twizzellers

Is so , what was so wrong with them ? they--were----lush--

Hi Cauliflowersneeze

Probably! Or more responsible for the reformulation and improvement of the Turkley twizzlers, which they did later on. It wasn't really intentional but they became a metaphor for the way that we fed our children in schools aka a product like that which essentially is a sausage would normally have 4 or 5 ingredients. When I looked on the ingredient deck of most of the foods being trayed up and served to the kids the ingredients list was so long the quality of the produce was outrageous. It looked like a NASA science lesson. I didn't even know what mechanically reclaimed meat was and I knew that I didn't want to feed my kids MSG. I think that 5 ingredient product that as I knew as a sausage was a 40 or 50 ingredient product and I knew that something just wasn't right. Ultimately it was about if the Government is going to feed your children 190 days a year for possibly breakfast and lunch then we best do it right. There should be standards which at that time, didn't exist. Prisoners had nutritional standards and dog food had really robust nutritional standards but our children didn't so I knew that wasn't right.

26Point2Miles Tue 12-May-15 13:05:34

The worlds a better place without Turkey twizzlers!

PukkaNameChange Tue 12-May-15 13:06:30

Hear hear 26.2

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:06:43

fallenempires

Hi Jamie,
I think that one of the major problems you're up against here is that schools generally see food tech/catering as a lesser subject.
Ds1 is taking GCSE Catering this Summer and despite complaints from both parents and students they have not been timetabled double lessons which as you can imagine impacts on what they can both learn and produce in a limited time (think expensive inedible slop!)
How will you be able to tackle this?
Btw he made your tomato soup for his practical so we're expecting an A* right ??

Hi there fallenempires. You're absolutely right - it's going to take time to bed-in the relevance physically and philosophically into many schools, councils and government, but with Britain being the most unhealthy country in Europe, it is only fair that that place called school, where all the kids go everyday, plays its part in what I think is the frontline against obesity and diet related disease.

It's also one of the most cost effective for the British tax payer and technically it has the power to add an extra 7 or 10 years to your life, which last time I checked, many other subjects didn't have the power to do.

Education, like any other business, needs to be relevant. But to your point, we must treat heads and teachers right, they should be well supported and resourced, and that across 26 thousand schools will always be a challenge. I will always do my bit to share and spread good practice and make sure that it's fun, enlightening and tasty.

MrsCampbellBlack Tue 12-May-15 13:07:48

Hi Jamie - when talking about diabetes please make sure you distinguish between the two types. Hard enough for a child to have to deal with type one without people perpetuating myths about it - I am of course referring to the infamous coke can picture.

Marshy Tue 12-May-15 13:07:54

Hi Jamie!
How does it feel being 40 and will this milestone affect your eating habits at all?

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:11:03

noushinkananian

What's your point of view regarding Vegetarian? They say two portion of red meat a week is OK! Other's say there is no point of eating chicken and red meat since vegetarian live longer and are healthier than meat eaters. Also there is risk of high blood pressure, high cholesterol, arthritis and etc....What should we do?

Hi noushinkananian,

Vegetarian and well managed vegan diets are looking very good at the moment in general health terms. We should all be learning from them and focusing on enjoying more plant-based delights. I personally try to eat vegetarian 2-3 times a week. It will save you a load of money and it challenges you to be more creative but it's been an absolute joy. As far as meat is concerned, many parts of the world which have areas of very long life expectancy do eat lots of vegetables but they do also eat meat too. So we shouldn't scaremonger - if you can be vegetarian - do the best you can. If you love meat go for higher quality and in moderation. On a personal note, going for wild meats or organic meats or even cheaper cuts of organic meats which are more afffordable but free range and grass fed are always optimal for me. The reality is that your great-grandmother would never have consumed the volume of meat that we easily do breakfast lunch and dinner 6-7 days a week. Winding back is definitely a good idea.It is also definitely beneficial for the environment and your wallet!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:16:01

SewingAndCakes

Hi Jamie,

Will you be bringing out a vegetarian book soon? We're all vegetarian in my family but I'm struggling to get the kids to eat protein that isn't processed.... Thanks.

Hi SewingandCakes

I've written a vegetarian book and I'm waiting for the chance for Channel 4 to show it. They're not yet convinced the general public want to see it, personally in my position I disagree.

On the protein story, ultimately legumes and beans you've just got to be ninja about the wonderful world of beans. You can source and get the most delightful range online. You've got a pretty good selection in supermarkets, but if you see how to Spanish and Italians cook with beans, and whether it's whole, smashed, soft, crispy, the possibilities are endless. And online you can source anything. The shapes and colours are beyond belief - these are often bought dried, and they're cheap as chips, but much more nutritious.

Everyone talks about tofu, and there's some standard average stuff, but if you can get into Japanese supermarket, the range and types are mind-blowing, and it's mind-blowing - not because they're vegetarian, but because it's just great. Good luck!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:16:20

StrawberrytallCake

Hi Jamie! I enjoy teaching my children the value of nutritional food at home. Do you think you would ever be interested in writing a children's cookbook? I've recently purchased the silver spoon for children and it has really inspired my 6 year old dd to cook and try things she normally wouldn't.

We have all of your books in this house and would certainly welcome a children's version!

Hi StrawberrytallCake

The answer is yes I'd love to do it. Think I'm ready to do it now that I've had 4 kids! I think when you're a parent and you've seen a few things you're well-armed. So I think now is the time to do it. I've seen the good bad ugly and inspirational and there's no one rule or recipe that works for every parent. But the theme of this whole chat has really been to talk about the differences between specifics, which are important, but my focus is always also on getting the energy and vibe right and really arming kids with little bubbles of information which make them much more streetwise about the world of food. A lot of kids and parents don't even know when they are getting it wrong. So we have to start from the real basics.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Tue 12-May-15 13:18:50

My first cook book was a Marguerite Patten children's cookbook - I still remember it fondly!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:20:09

TurnOverTheTv

Hi Jamie, my 10 year old daughter Charlotte is steadily working her way through your books, and has made some amazing meals.

She auditioned for your new kids cookery programme with FreshOne productions in Manchester, but unfortunately didn't get through this time.

It's knocked her confidence a bit, do you have any words of encouragement t for her?

Much love!

Hi there TurnOverTheTv

Charlotte - don't let funny strange TV people knock your confidence. It sounds like you're doing amazing things, getting involved, and sometimes it's just about timing - not talent. It's quite hard, as I'm sure you've seen on these TV shows when you see so many people and you're trying to get a real stretch of types of kids from different backgrounds, so it definitely wouldn't have been personal. So keep cooking - and i'm sure i'll see you sometime soon!

My favourite naughty treat is the ultimate cheese toastie from my Comfort Food book (pg. 275) - it's outrageous and just next level.

Wenglish Tue 12-May-15 13:21:05

Hi Jamie,
What's your go to dinner with 4 kids?
Am due number 4 very soon and need some inspiration please.
Thanks

IpanemaChica Tue 12-May-15 13:21:44

Hi Jamie,

I really admire what you are trying to achieve with this campaign, healthy cooking and eating is such an essential life skill.

I'm from the UK but live in Brazil which has its own issues with childhood obesity. Why did you decide to involve the G20 and go global with this campaign?

Bobolbach Tue 12-May-15 13:23:05

My 7 year old DD has really been struggling to read in school and I just wanted to let you know that sitting down together and reading your recipe books and getting her to follow the instructions has really helped; not only in her becoming more adventurous in the food she will try, but she's found books that don't 'frighten' her.

She now looks forward to choosing meals for the family. Thanks.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:23:51

TheCountessofFitzdotterel

Hello Jamie. I really wish you would do a vegetarian book, and also a tv series with/for kids.

My question is:
Where do you stand on the #wewantplates campaign? What is the daftest most original and unusual thing you've ever served food in?

Thank you smile

Hi TheCountessofFitzdotterel

I don't know if it really needs a campaign - I've never been overwhelmed by non-platey-plates! Now that you mention it I am starting to recall seeing a few strange things. I think plates are very nice in schools with kids instead of prison trays.

I think if it gets in the way of enjoying a meal - then the chef's gone mad! Chefs do sometimes go mad and like in any profession, artists, musicians... I never did understand why Lady Gaga wore a dress made out of meat. But it did get attention - it might be the same with these chefs.

I will keep my eye on this. If you see something in a restaurant and think it's a bad idea, just go and tell the chef, he'll be pleased to hear it smile

SewingAndCakes Tue 12-May-15 13:24:02

Thanks Jamie, I will become a legume ninja!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:25:22

Marshy

Hi Jamie!
How does it feel being 40 and will this milestone affect your eating habits at all?

Hi Marshy

Just a minute... hold your horses - I've got at least another week of being 39!

It doesn't feel that great - I'm just processing it all at the moment. I feel like i've climbed a hill and now i've just got to walk down it.

Only joking - I feel happy. Since my wife's been 40, she's had a little spring in her step, so hopefully it'll be the same for me.

Hopefully it won't effect my eating habits because in the last year, I feel i've got them in a really good place.

FoxyJane Tue 12-May-15 13:26:32

Hi Jamie, what about children with sensory processing disorders? I have 4 children, 2 have autism.

All of my kids love food but my 4 year old son finds food challenging, almost frightening. We've tried everything to help him with food.

How would a programme like this be all inclusive? We have two children in our school in wheelchairs and many other children who have other needs.

Would schools need to be adapted for cooking and growing food? And what about inner city schools which have very little space?

Where will the money come from to provide this?

I would also worry about the message from this curriculum, having 2 autistic children who take everything literally I would worry about the negative impact something positive might have.

We shop with £60 a week for everything and my children eat well but I've made it my mission to get it right. If you get the go ahead please try not to patronise parents, we have a tough job as it is.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:28:54

MmeLindor

My daughter is 13 years old, and in her first year of high school cooking lessons, she's made soup 5 times. She's also made the most disgusting macaroni cheese EVER, which was prepared using dried milk powder. She brought it home and binned it.

I've been teaching her to cook at home, and she's even making YouTube videos to teach other kids, because we've found that the standard of teaching in schools is often so abysmal. In her report card this year, the teacher says she 'shows potential', because she is confident in cooking her own meals, which I think is a basic life skill.

My question is this - I've mentioned this in school but had no response. How do I go about pushing them to improve their home economics lesson?

Hi MmeLindor

Like any other subject that is important in school, it needs to be measured. Which is why Ofsted are considering very seriously to structure the delivery of this subject. Ultimately if we take it seriously, this is a good thing, on the condition that education really does support teachers to be the best they can be. Making sure we support teachers right, give them really really good content and reference points (which my charity has been doing for a long time, videos, recipes, competitions). I don't know anyone who uses milk powder in their cooking - so why have it in schools? Soups are fantastic, but the concept of soup-making is one part of what needs to be taught along with stews, pasta dishes etc etc. This is what we teach in our Ministry of Food centres to the general public around the country.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Tue 12-May-15 13:31:47

MmeLindor - it could be worse - ds3 once had a Food Tech lesson that consisted of cooking pasta and pouring over a jar of the cheapest possible pasta sauce.

TurnOverTheTv Tue 12-May-15 13:35:07

Thank you so much for replying Jamie, Charlotte will be over the moon!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:35:16

IpanemaChica

Hi Jamie,

I really admire what you are trying to achieve with this campaign, healthy cooking and eating is such an essential life skill.

I'm from the UK but live in Brazil which has its own issues with childhood obesity. Why did you decide to involve the G20 and go global with this campaign?

Hi IpanemaChica

Really good question. It is still a global campaign, but i'm simply focussing on the G20 as it's an occasion and a gathering. I'm just one man with a campaign and focus is really important when trying to make change.

The G20 will be discussing many things i'm sure around terrorism, national security, economics - but diet related disease, for probably most of this countries bar Mexico, will be the biggest killer. And the cost to healthcare will be unimaginable, so this simply campaign about it being a child's human right to have access to practical food education at this moment in time and in this climate of bad health it is fair, logical and as important as the other subjects being discussed at the G20.

6 of those countries have made the commitment, the UK, Sweden, Japan, Finland, Netherlands and one other I can't think of right now because my brain's not working! But hopefully you understand what I do is agitate conversation and there's never a perfect way to do that, but if i can get your support, the public support, that will make change.

Perfection won't happen overnight, if it exists, so it's a long road which is why it's important that we drive it, because governments only really work in 4 year cycles.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:38:20

californiaburrito

Hi Jamie-

Thanks for all the work you have done to increase awareness of healthy eating in schools.

I'm one of those awful pushy PTA moms at a inner London primary school. 80% of our children are classified in the lowest categories of social deprivation and in excess of 50% qualify for FSM. Breakfast can be an ice lolly and dinner a box of chips.

Our kids are desperate for practical cooking lessons and it has been their top request for any work the PTA does. Our Heads are would love to offer increased opportunity to cook for the students and to link cooking with other subjects. I would love to help provide this for the school. So, as you can see, we're already sold on your idea for practical food education.

But how are we going to do it? We don't have the money or the space. (I'm currently shopping for a double decker bus to house the library that we lost 2 years ago)

So when you're done kicking ass with your petition, how can you help all of us make it happen?

Thanks

Hi californiaburrito

The Government have made it law that we need to arm and teach our kids with food education in the UK which is amazing. What you're expressing is that they haven't done the other bit of their deal which is to facilitate amazing people like you to take an inch and make it into a mile. In Lambeth my Kitchen Garden project was sponsored by Google and cost £75 per school and provides for as much access to content as they want. The schools have done radical things with not much budget and they are open to sharing their skills. Get in touch by emailing kitchengarden@jamieoliver.org and say that your team would like to support them. As you've said, money is really really important and I've got something I am working on in a few months time that has the power, if the public will consider it, to put £500 million into the school system. But I'll leave that conversation for another day.

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:42:21

chocolateyay

Do you despair of current eating habits - grazing, snacking, breakfast in a bar/bottle, ping and peel dinners?

I know you try hard but can this trend be reversed? British food used to be envied for the quality and variety of its fresh/basic ingredients - now its famous for 'meat' of questionable provenance. Now we are storing up a generation of health issues due to bad diet/overweight kids.

Do we need to start with the supermarkets, farms, importers, doctors, government, advertisers, schools...?

(DS thinks you are brill).

Hi chocolateyay

I've think you've seen me dispairing for at least a decade, often putting myself in uncomfortable positions or balling my eyes out about something happening somewhere in the world!

But as bad as public health have been there are signs of reversal and I would like to be philosophical that us humans always push things quite far, because that's what we do, but then we look back and see what's great about the past - we're at that stage now.

There's been amazing initiatives in the larger food industry on salt and cleaning up of ingredient decs, more local and regional product, and I think with technology going the way it is, some of the political stories we've been talking about today there is now a whole handful of things that are starting to change the way we shop and eat, in-front and behind the scenes, but it just takes time. I'm optimistic that in the next 10 years, we will start to see a reversal in these bad trends. But i'm 40 next week and I've probably only got another 20 years left of hard work!

JamieOliver Tue 12-May-15 13:44:05

This is the second time I've been on Mumsnet and it is always a pleasure. You're an amazing community and I know you've got lots of strong views and I'm not suggesting that everything I do is always perfect, but I'm hopeful that we all agree that any excuse to inspire a child about the environment and food and what happens when they puts stuff into their bodies and how that in turn will help them to be on Mumsnet as a parent in the future. That's a really really good thing.

I'm really committed to this cause for the rest of my career and with your help, signing this petition and sharing it on social media, which will take about 45 seconds, will be a really powerful vote for the importance of this subject for our kids. Thank you if you've done it - and if you haven't, thank you if you're going to sign it!

Janus Tue 12-May-15 13:47:12

Hi Jamie! I somehow feel close to you as I have 3 girls and then had a boy, what a shock, a wonderful shock!!
I would love you to do a cookery book for older children so they can learn how to cook and help out the family, one night off a fortnight would go down very well here! What is your quick meal that all 4 of yours will eat that doesn't involve pasta please?!!! Thank you.

Margaritte Tue 12-May-15 13:50:42

Thank you Jamie - I've enjoyed reading your answers, and am looking forward to seeing what you do this year. I would be interested in the vegetarian show, even as a meat eater. maybe C4 should be open minded to it.

I'm not sure if you have finished on here now, or if this is allowed on webchat (sorry if that's the case!) If you are on here for a little more time, please consider answering my question. I am a big fan, and you have our whole family eating healthily from your books, apart from my 6yr old son (My question is upthread)

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