Surgery now 3 weeks after medical management

[Enigma1975]

Hello all,

I'm really upset. Back at the hospital this morning as 3 weeks after my medically managed miscarriage I was told to do a pregnancy test - it was still positive. So back for a scan which identified some 'retained products' (nice), had a chat to the Doctor who recommended surgery to finally sort this out. I'm now back to home waiting to hear when that is likely to be.

I'm really upset as it feels like all this waiting and the utterly awful experience of the miscarriage itself (very brutal, lots of blood, saw everything) was all sodding pointless as now I've got to have surgery anyway. I wish I had done that in the first instance - ironically it was my first choice, but as I would have had to wait 5 days I changed my mind. Bad choice!

I went back into work from the hospital and promptly burst into tears just before a meeting (I have a fairly senior role) so HR sent me home - probably a good thing with hindsight! But now stuck in limbo AGAIN!!!

Apologies for the rant but I am really hacked off - not sure at whom, maybe myself!

Enigma x

[rider1975]

Hey Enigma
I'm really sorry to see your news. I remember that we were around the same time. I'm told you can now have a much gentler procedure than the traditional ERPC - do you know about this. I can dig out the name if not. I hope you will be booked in soon and put this behind you. When I had my surgical management, my period came back very quickly and my body recovered very quickly too.
Might I ask your advice ? I just tested tonight (I'm 3 weeks 2 days since the medical management) and the pg test is showing 1-2 weeks pg or HCG under 100.
More worrying is that I have thickish brown blood on the tissue have pee-ing and some grittiness in the loo. Not much on the panty liners. Sorry for all the detailed info - but do these resemble your symptoms. I'm also concerned that there is something wrong.
I wish you best of luck for a simple easy procedure and at least you know this is the end of it now. This waiting is interminable ....
Xxx

[rider1975]

Ps. I found it - it's called MVE or Manual Vacuum Extraction (no euphemisms here...) and is meant to be much more gentle in the uterus

[Enigma1975]

Hello rider - oh gosh, none of us are having an easy time of this are we?!

I didn't use a digital test but it was showing as fairly strong positive this morning. I haven't bled for the past week though, and have no other symptoms other that a dull mild period-pain type cramp. If you are still showing as positive I would get back in touch with the hospital / your GP - just to make sure. I had a scan this am to confirm there was still tissue in there - I hope that's not the case for you.

My surgery is planned for Monday. I'm still pretty upset / angry (still no idea who at!) - but a cheeky glass of wine is helping..!

Take care - this really is all horrid isn't it? I am desperately trying to stay positive but this has got me almost at breaking point.

[Enigma1975]

Oooh, thanks for the extra info. Think it's a bog standard ERPC i'm booked in for.... I'm pretty terrified of hospitals / surgery anyway (my Mum died a few years ago which has affected me I think!) so I'm really scared. Must remember to act my age!

[AKP79]

Hi both - just wanted to let you know I feel your pain. I had the exact same experience over Christmas. Medically managed, 3 weeks later tests still showing pregnant so had to have surgery.

I'm now having my second MMC. Surgery was booked for Tuesday because I couldn't face that 3 week wait for a second time. Miscarried naturally last Friday, scan again today and I have an infection and retained products! Got to wait and test again in 2 weeks.

Please don't feel terrified, although I understand why you are. I found it more emotional than unpleasant in any way.

Miscarrying is a cruel cruel thing!

[Enigma1975]

Thanks AKP79 and sorry to hear your story.

Thanks for sharing your experience - logic tells me it will all be fine, but everything else is screaming ARRGHHHHH!

[rider1975]

No need to act any number! I was pretty wide eyed for my ERPC but it was ok.
Thanks for your advice - it's really appreciated.
I know exactly how you feel about it being in vain and being angry and upset.
Let us know how you get on - I'll be thinking of you on Monday.
Xxx

[Enigma1975]

Thank you - have a good weekend x

[jinglebellmel]

Hi Enigma, I'm really sorry you're having to go through this on top of everything else. I'm 3.5 weeks post medical miscarriage now and have a scan booked today as hcg was still measuring 21 on Wednesday. Pretty sure I'm going to be in the same both with retained product and d&c.

I can totally sympathise. Loosing the baby felt like I'd been set right back 11 weeks to not pregnant again, and now this feels like I'm going to be set back 3/4 weeks to dealing with it all when I thought it was done. Was really hoping to get pregnant again ASAP so have been ttc, I feel cheated all over agin.

[Enigma1975]

Oh crikey, sorry to hear this jinglebellmel. I'm quite shocked how many women all this affects...

I'm not sure about when to try again personally. I kind of want to wait a bit, but I'm aware that time may not be on my side (I'm 41) so don't want to ruin my chances....

Hey ho. We are away in holiday from next Sunday and I can't wait to leave all this behind!!!

[jinglebellmel]

Yeah it seems so common, I wish they'd offer a routine scan sooner to check that everything was as it should be?

That will be a nice break and hopefully you'll be able to relax and celebrate he end of it all at last! I hope it goes well for you on Monday.

[jinglebellmel]

I'll be joining you for surgery on Monday Enigma, for a blood 2cm blood clot. Everything I've read online seems to suggest it's not necessary for something that small but they are adamant it is. Also have a cyst on my ovary which has appeared since the mc. Feeling rock bottom right now :(

[Enigma1975]

Oh no! So sorry to hear that.

I hope you're ok? Do you have someone to talk to? Personally, I'm also finding wine and chocolate to be most useful at the moment :-)

[jinglebellmel]

Yes lots of wine here tonight! I'm so confused, all my research suggests a 2cm clot is too small to warrant surgery, but they seem to think I should have it. The cyst which has appeared since the mc would suggest I've ovd and we've been ttc,I don't know if I should try and make them let me wait 2 weeks until I know if I'm preg, or just get it over with. I don't trust my own judgement at the moment :(

[Enigma1975]

Oh gosh. I'm really not sure what to advise - but I would very definitely raise your very valid concerns.

[Enigma1975]

Hope you're ok jinglebellmel.

Well, I survived :-) Everyone was lovely and I was in and out of hospital within about 4 hours. Still feeling a bit sore, feeble and groggy, but otherwise ok.

Looking forward to getting back to normal and usual life recommencing!

Thank you for all the advice and support ladies x

[jinglebellmel]

Aww really glad it's all gone well for you Enigma :) hope your recovery is swift. I've been in since 10.30, still waiting and not sure if they'll fit me in today now- just a little pissed off!

[Enigma1975]

Oh no!!!! That's not good :-( Really hope you can be squeezed in today - avoid any MORE waiting...

Fingers crossed x

[jinglebellmel]

Thank you, not holding my breath but I hope so. Just want it done now.

[jinglebellmel]

Enigma how are you feeling? Hope you're alright after the procedure.

I was discharged this afternoon after being taken down to theatre and the consultant then agreeing it probably wasn't neccesary! So hoping the clot comes out with Af.

[Enigma1975]

Oh gosh! What a drama for you to GP through. Are you happy with the decision?

I'm OK thanks - still felt tired today but bleeding and cramps have all but stopped. Back to work tomorrow then!

Glad it's all worked out for you :-)

[jinglebellmel]

I think so, I really didn't feel I need it, and the gynae consultant seemed a little puzzled why the dr had booked me in for such a small clot. I hope it's the right decision.

That's good, pretty quick recovery then.