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Struggling with ex partners lack of interest in our son

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Mummyofone123 · 20/05/2018 18:40

Hello there, I haven’t sought any advice about my situation like this before so bare with me.

I was with my now former partner for nearly six years & we have a 2 year old together. Former partner was diagnosed with depression last September, which led to a very difficult few months. He ended our relationship in February this year, stating he didn’t love me anymore but this did come as a big shock, despite the difficulties we faced with his mental health in the months before. He ended up seeking treatment for suicidal thoughts as he had threatened to end his life (which led to me having to stay with him for a very difficult 24 hours whilst the local NHS trust found him a bed in a unit). It then transpired 3 days later that he was in love with a work colleague and they were going to make a go of things.

Fast forward to now (as I won’t bore you with too many details); my former partner has moved back to his relatives 100 miles away. He has had zero contact with our son since the day he ended our relationship (so nearly 4 months). For a period I would send pictures and updates via text, which he would tend to give very brief responses to. 2 weeks ago, I contacted him with a photograph of our son taken at his preschool & asked if he would like me to send him a copy: zero response.

I am hurt that he won’t contact me to ask how our son is but am trying to brush past the hurt he’s caused me. I have occasional contact with my in laws, who state he isn’t ‘unwell’ at this time, he just can’t be bothered to speak to me.

My son asks about daddy occasionally and when we are out, if he sees a man baring any resemblance to him, he will start shouting daddy; this breaks my heart.
Has anybody else been through a separation where mental health is an element; if so, what are your experiences of that parent having contact with your child? I feel at a loss as I feel angry and upset that he would appear not to bother about our son but I also feel helpless as I obviously still care about him and hope that his mental health isn’t worsening.

Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated, particularly with Father’s Day approaching as I really don’t know what to do for the best anymore. I don’t see contacting him to almost force him to be interested in our sons life but then I don’t want to come across as the ex that’s creating a barrier.

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SilverDoe · 20/05/2018 18:52

That sounds very difficult OP, I’m so sorry :(

I would be trying to establish more contact with his parents just to establish exactly WTF is going on. You need to lay down to them explicitly that you are getting no contact from the father of your child, you are aware he has suffered badly with his mental health so you are turning to them to try amd establish if he wants a relationship with his son.

If you are getting no response from them, contact him once more saying I have tried to contact you, and in the event you are too unwell to communicate, I have also contacted your family but have had no response either, and you need to know if he is intending to maintain contact or not. I honestly don’t see what else you can do. It’s a big situation to navigate so I would take it one step at a time, first of all finding out where he stands and then coming here and IRL for support on how to deal with his response.

I know others may advise not being so understanding or patient, but I think it’s best to try and handle this as emotionlessly as possible and move through this as you see fit. Despite me being very sympathetic to his struggles, I would also be pushing for a straightforward and prompt answer to the above given how long it has been now. That’s a very long time for such a little one :(

I Wish you and you and your son all the best Flowers

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Mummyofone123 · 20/05/2018 19:05

Thank you SilverDoe for your reply :)

Contact with the in laws is hit & miss to be honest. MIL (who my ex is now living with) has never been forthcoming in keeping in touch - I took my son up to see them all in April (ex partner went out for the day), which was surprisingly positive but MIL would never call me. I sent her a message about the preschool picture but no response from her either. My Brother in law lives the opposite end of the country but is of the mindset that my ex partner needs ‘time to settle’ then expects he will be in touch. I have the most contact with BILs partner, who has been a big support throughout & has known my ex for 8 years. She says it shouldn’t be my place to keep messaging (my ex) & he should ask himself.
About a month ago, ex partner claimed he was still very unwell but other family members have said they don’t believe this is the case, he’s just ‘lazy’. He doesn’t ever mention our son either apparently & obviously doesn’t pay any sort of child maintenance.

Nobody ever expects to find themselves in this position I guess but I just feel so frustrated with it all.

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SilverDoe · 20/05/2018 22:17

I can imagine it must be very frustrating and sad :(

I actually think you have done more than enough; do you think it’s time to (apart from making sure CSA are pursuing him) stop putting energy into contact with him? I do understand it must be an awful conflict, but it shouldn’t be on you to make him see his son. Poor boy :(

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Starlight2345 · 20/05/2018 22:28

My ex had mh problems but was also abusive .

For me I did the freedom program and part of what i realised was that I made excuses for his behaviour with his mh. Actually he was a dreadful dad to my Ds.

I also used to send pictures and got no response . When I stopped I felt better . It hurt every time I sent pictures of our Ds . It stopped hurting and he didn’t care.

I also put a claim into csa at the time . I only got £5 a week as he wasn’t working . It obviously wasn’t for the money but we did plan our child and he can be reminded about that every time it is deducted from his benefits.
I also stopped chasing as again rejection hurt me and I felt I had more chance to support my Ds.

I personally in your position would email him tell him the door is open for contact but you cannot keep chasing him to see your Ds and he can always get in contact .

I think it is important to remember this is about your Ds not him.

I also wonder what he has said to mil if can’t be bothered is her telling you something politely rather than the blunt truth but you know her

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NellMangel · 20/05/2018 22:38

Just from the info in your post I would say he is struggling with mh. Comments about laziness seem harsh.

I had similar disinterest from my ex regarding emailed pictures etc. I thought he'd like to be updated. He's explained it's too painful as it reminds him he's not part of everyday life. Also his partner (the OW) doesn't like him communicating with me.

I stopped sending photos and info in the end. I upload photos to a shared folder for various family members. If he wants to look he can, but I don't enquire. It's too hurtful and just makes me feel angry that he's trying to forget our lovely boy exists.

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Mummyofone123 · 20/05/2018 23:24

SilverDoe I think that you are probably right, I haven’t contacted him for 2 weeks now after receiving no response so I may just leave it there. The only thing is that I am due to be taking DS to see BIL for the weekend next month for my nephews birthday - a weekend where I will be sharing accommodation with MIL & will be picking her up along the way, so will have to go where my ex is living. (Yes I’m aware that going on holiday with ex MIL is going to be a challenge but I’m always trying to be the ‘bigger person’ so hopefully it won’t backfire on me!)

Starlight - I’m sorry to hear about your experiences & I can relate to what you’re saying. I was fortunate in that my ex wasn’t abusive, difficult to live with at times certainly. When our son was born, my ex loved him so much but wasn’t always the most proactive parent, but I put that down to undiagnosed MH & lack of confidence (he had a difficult upbringing).
I think the email may be a good idea as a final contact from me, leave the ball in his court. Other family members have said my ex tells MIL that he does text me to ask how me & our son are but he hasn’t; MIL apparently nags him to contact me so I guess that’s his was of appeasing her, to lie.
CSA is something I didn’t want to do but now I am debating. I said to BIL I would be going through CSA if ex didn’t offer anything; his response was ‘please don’t as they’ll end up taking him to court and that will make his MH worse’. So that makes me feel uneasy.

NellMangel - I think you may be right in that he is struggling, the thought of which upsets me as I do wish he would reach out to me & say if he is. I’m a rational person & have analysed everything 100 times over; why would he just stop caring when I truly believe he must care about our DS (I know it’s not a given that a parent cares, maybe it’s just me being positive).
And your experience of your ex saying it’s too painful could ring true for me, maybe that’s why he never mentions our DS. Ex’s nephew is 6 months younger than our DS & when ex sees him, he is particularly affectionate & plays with him (which obviously hurts as he can’t even ask how our son is).
According to BIL, the OW was apparently more of a fantasy, they talked about moving in together etc but my ex said ‘nothing was ever going to happen’ with her but he led me to believe it was; so I don’t think it’s a third party influencing him.

Thank you so much for your comments, it is so nice to hear a neutral perspective & to know that I have done as much as I can. I have felt very alone these last 4 months (I know I’m not, I have fantastic parents who have supported me throughout).
Thankfully my DS is doing well, happy in his new preschool and becoming a really cheeky chappie. Every day I feel sad that his dad isn’t involved but I hope one day that may not be the case. I have made DS a photo album with pics of him & his dad so when he’s a little older he can look at them and know that his dad was a part of his life.

This parenting lark sure is complicated sometimes Confused

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annandale · 20/05/2018 23:31

It sounds as if your ds is confused which isn't surprising! It sounds like you are doing an amazing job.

What about writing a story, illustrated with photos, about My Dad? Maybe get some advice from a health visitor about where to pitch it. A simple story about how my dad loved me and liked doing x or y with me, but one day got an illness that made him so sad he couldn't stay at home in case he made everyone else sad too. The story could say that he lives somewhere else now and is working on being less sad, and that he always enjoys remembering the good times with his son. Difficult to write or to know if it would help but at least it keeps discussion open?

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SilverDoe · 21/05/2018 06:16

Flowers

It must be so hard interacting with his family knowing he is not prioritising your son, even if the reason is serious. I’m glad your son is getting on well though, and it will be nice if you can have connection to his side of the family still, even if it is mainly through BIL and his partner.

I like the idea of a history; my DH’s dad committed suicide when DH was a baby; one of his early foster carers made DH an album and explained in a gentle and age appropriate way that his dad wasn’t around anymore. You’re right, parenting can be really tough but I think you’re doing a fantast job.

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Mummyofone123 · 21/05/2018 16:29

Just to update, I followed your advice starlight & surprise surprise, he read my message and didn’t respond. I said he is more than welcome to contact me about DS but I will not contact him. Today I took my son to the shops & drove part of the route to our old home. DS asks where’s daddy, I say he isn’t here anymore - he lives with Granny; DS replies ‘he gone. don’t think he come back’. That’s my 2 and a half year old - it’s breaking my heart every day Sad

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Starlight2345 · 21/05/2018 16:47

It really does hurt the idea that the other parent doesn’t appear to care about the child you would walk over hot coals for.

One piece of advice given to me a few years ago was when daddy is mentioned we feel it more than a friend we don’t see or an aunt that has moved away. At one point my Ds would always ask me about dad at bedtime . However in reality it was about delaying bedtime as I always felt compelled to answer. I then told him I would answer him but in the morning if he was still interested but he never was

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Mummyofone123 · 21/05/2018 17:49

That is a good point, there’s definitely triggers for DS when he will mention daddy.
I’ve actually just had a response from my ex & he has said he will try to make more effort but he is struggling with his MH. I’ll take that on face value & I do feel better for the response as he did say he misses our son but isn’t ready to speak to him. I know nothing has changed but at least I can at least tell DS that daddy loves him but isn’t well.

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