Dont want to start WW3 but I didnt even think this needed researching...

[LieselVonTrappDoor]

this

[HuwEdwards]

I just knew it would be that article!

[charliebat]

and formula does?

[Piffle]

I am of course the exception to that article

[southeastastralplain]

i knew that would be posted when i read it this morning.

[RanToTheHills]

so when's battle to commence and who's going to start?!

[ProfYaffle]

I never thought it did.

[Gobbledispook]

Sooo knew it would be this article! Heard it on the radio this morning.

I'm staying out of it. Apart from to say, I'm pretty sure I've said this on every breast and bottle battle that has ever been! It ain't rocket science!

[Callisto]

It isn't anything new though, I read ages ago that there are higher rates of breastfeeding among middle class women. Middle class women arn't necessarily more clever but they are probably better educated and more likely to have an open mind (and less likely to listen to their mothers who tell them bottle is best).

[LieselVonTrappDoor]

Sorry Callisto, in this instance my mother said bottle was best, she is a former midwife/paediatric nurse and was thinking about both baby and mother.

[Callisto]

Leisel - don't know what you're on about, I didn't write what I wrote to offend anyone, middle class, working class, breast or bottle feeder. It was merely repeating something I had read months ago.

[LieselVonTrappDoor]

Wind your neck in, did I say you offended anyone. I knew I shouldnt have started this feckin thread. I just found it an odd headline. And never do I mention class cause I think its unnecessary. I did however misread your thread, I thought you said mothers say breast is best and you didnt so my mistake.

[joelallie]

Aha! I heard this and my first thought was of Mumsnet.

I'm past the need to worry about it anymore so I will just let this one pass me by. Seen to much cyber-blood spilt on this topic.

[Callisto]

Ahh, that makes much more sense. Sorry to you too Liesel.

[juuule]

I was a bottlefed baby who breastfed my own babies.
Where does that put me? I'm not bright because my mother wasn't (obviously shown by bottlefeeding me). Oh! but then again I must be, because I breastfed my own. Hmmmm. Something doesn't add up there,does it. Or have I missed something?

[mumandlovingit]

what a load of rubbish!

i know people who were brought up from well off families who bottle fed their children who are bright.i know people who come from crap homes, have kids on social services register thing who breastfed their kids and to be honest they're thick as s*t.and i also know people who are in between, breast or bttle fed and they've all got clever children.

havent people got anything better to do than write articles like that for people to worry over.

there always will be the big breastfeed/bottlefeed debate and to be honest as long as the baby is healthy it doesnt really matter does it.everyone makes their own choices for their own reasons.my friend was actually told off for breastfeedding by her midwife because her baby didnt cope with the lactose in it and was made to feel stpid because she'd even tried!

we'll never win!

[Jennypog]

Who cares?

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

I'm actually more suprised by the comment from the NCT woman, that "Women do not breastfeed because of any benefit to their baby, they do it because it feels like the natural thing to do." Of course we breastfeed because of benefit to our babies! I've always suffered from eczema, am obese, and my brother has diabetes, and I want to give DD as much protection from these things as I can. Whilst I wouldn't be surprised to hear this comment from many people, I am surprised to hear it from the NCT.

[OldieMum]

This is an epidemiological study, with a very large sample. I haven't read the study, but, if the findings are in the BMJ, it is likely that the findings were statistically significant. Hence we can all know bright bottle-fed babies (I hope I'm one) and not-so-bright breast-fed babies (plenty, I'm sure), but the question is not what our personal experience is, but what a study using large numbers shows. What it seems to show is that breast-feeding is correlated with things that make mothers more likely to do well in intelligence tests (class and education level being two possibilities). But it also implies that bottle-fed babies with these advantages will be equally bright. Lots of research in other areas shows the powerful advantages that parental class and education levels give to children. The study seems merely to reinforce this finding. It does not imply that mothers who bottle-feed are not bright.

[Pruhoohooohoooooni]

I don't think I'm allowed on these threads any more. [rueful look]

I wonder what the Swedish equivalent of MN is like?
Would not like to bottle feed in Sweden.

[SPACEdoutZombieCADET]

i had to bottle fed in the end as my mother struggled to breast feed me and didnt get any support from the hospital, however i used to be a mensa member along with my father...sadly my brain cells have since died off.

[oops]

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