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I know I am the last person on EARTH to see Brokeback Mountain, but is anyone around to answer a couple of questions? ta

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harpsichordcarrier Sun 31-Aug-08 22:17:39

when Jack and Ennis have their big showdown (their last meeting) and Jack says he is seeing a woman on the side, is he really talking about the guy he meets at the dinner and suggests a fishing trip? (I suspect so, as his dad refers to him later too)

and

when Lorraine is telling Ennis about Jack's death and we see flashbacks of Jack being attacked, is this Ennis's vision/worst nightmare about what might have happened (given what he sw as a child) OR is it the reality as opposed to Lorraine's sanitised version?

TIA
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umberella Sun 31-Aug-08 22:18:40

Yes

and

the reality

sleepycat Sun 31-Aug-08 22:18:47

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umberella Sun 31-Aug-08 22:19:17

i thought it was a great film smile

PuppyMonkey Sun 31-Aug-08 22:20:50

I saw it, but tbh have no idea what you are talking about. Memory like a bloody sieve.

Thought it a very over-rated film myself.

harpsichordcarrier Sun 31-Aug-08 22:21:11

yes, I thought it was great too though much harder to watch than I thought. Ang Lee has such a light, delicate touch imo and handled the subject beautifully. Heath Ledger was amazing, imo. very subtle and affecting performance.

tortoise Sun 31-Aug-08 22:22:25

Well you are not the last person to see it.
I haven't seen it yet!

sleepycat Sun 31-Aug-08 22:23:28

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harpsichordcarrier Sun 31-Aug-08 22:23:45

oh sorry tortoise
DON'T READ THE THREAD!

mybabysinthegarden Sun 31-Aug-08 22:26:29

Not sure about the first question but in the short story it's based on, when he hears about Jack's death he wonders before he phones Jack's wife if it might have been an attack and something in the way she tells the story confirms to him that it was.

harpsichordcarrier Sun 31-Aug-08 23:09:12

ah, interesting thanks!

Tinker Sun 31-Aug-08 23:15:18

Had to watch it with subtitles - so much mumbling. And can't remember bits your talking about now either. Middle age.

RaggedRobin Sun 31-Aug-08 23:35:06

my impression of those scenes was that we are not SUPPOSED to know whether it was real or whether it is just ennis's suspicions.

to me, that ^not knowing^ what has actually happened reflects the heartbreaking position that ennis is in: the person he considers to be his soulmate dies and he finds out only indirectly. the details of the death are given in such a way as to put doubt in his mind about what really happened.

because of the illicit nature of their relationship, and despite the depth of it, ennis is completely sidelined with regard to jack's death. only ennis's mother acknowledges his grief. and for me, that's what made the story to sad and affecting.

took me a good few viewings to really appreciate heath ledger in the movie - for the first half hour, i was really irked by his mumbling! as harpsichord carrier says, a very fine, subtle performance.

PuppyMonkey Mon 01-Sep-08 08:06:19

Tinker I'm with you. Saw it at the cinema and couldn't hear a blardy word anyone was saying!!!!

Pruners Mon 01-Sep-08 08:11:04

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TheGirlWithGreenEyes Mon 01-Sep-08 08:30:26

I just saw this for he first time recently too... i think yes to the first question and agree with raggedrobin that you can interpret the second thing either way.

Dh really liked the film too (and I thought it would be too "touchy-feely" for him...)

Flamesparrow Mon 01-Sep-08 08:31:33

Not reading thread, but wanting to say - I still haven't seen it

VanillaPumpkin Thu 11-Sep-08 19:33:13

I just watched this yesterday. I thought it was amazing. Such a beautiful film on so many levels and so so so sad. I was sobbing. I am still close to tears thinking about it today. Very moving.

In answer to your questions I think yes and the reality sad.

The film really blew me away.

ShowOfHands Thu 11-Sep-08 19:36:26

Brokeback Mountain was one of those films that haunted me for days afterwards. It's exceptionally well adapted and shot. A beautiful film I think.

DrHorrible Thu 18-Sep-08 11:10:52

I was doing fine until he found the shirt and jacket.... then the sobbing started!

fransmom Thu 18-Sep-08 11:17:56

you aren't the last person on earth to see it, as i haven't seen it yet!!!!!!

casbie Thu 18-Sep-08 11:52:48

"Brokeback Mountain was one of those films that haunted me for days afterwards. It's exceptionally well adapted and shot. A beautiful film I think."

i agree, but i cried buckets at the end...

star-crossed lovers is there ever a more upsetting story?

midlandsmumof4 Fri 19-Sep-08 01:12:46

I love it-absolutely class film. My OH hates it though. Would be very interessted to know what other guys think about it?

S1ur Fri 19-Sep-08 01:22:55

My Dp rated as an excellent film.

Understated, subtly acted, moving and a real guys flick in places. my gawd could they say 'less'!

Interstingly rated as sexually explicit despite it having a distinct lack of sex. Compare it to a hetreo film and the difference is marked.

Oh and I thought it was ace too, quiet but meaningful and beautiful to watch bith because of the superb acting but also the direction.

But I'd have appreciated less mumbling. Blardy blokes.

midlandsmumof4 Fri 19-Sep-08 01:29:53

My OH is obviously from a different generation. This film definately makes him uncomfortable & he is very interested to know how this is a guys flick-sorry.

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