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Are kids in American High Schools REALLY this horrible?

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BOFster Tue 27-Jan-15 21:15:52

I'm watching The Perks Of Being A Wallflower, yes...grin. It's not just in this film though, it's in pretty much ALL of them that feature schools and teenagers.

Is it just for the purposes of drama, like that strange habit of putting the phone down without saying goodbye?

Hassled Tue 27-Jan-15 21:21:25

I saw Mean Girls for the first time recently and wondered the same. I would hate to be an American teen.

And why are there no British High School movies? Are all the shiny Academy blazers putting the producers off?

BOFster Tue 27-Jan-15 21:28:02

I know- I can hardly think of any! Maybe The History Boys? And, umm, Goodbye Mr Chips grin.

SoMuchForSubtlety Tue 27-Jan-15 21:29:20

St Trinians. Very true to life.

Hassled Tue 27-Jan-15 21:36:36

Oh and Gregory's Girl.

BOFster Tue 27-Jan-15 21:46:37

To Sir With Love...there really isn't anything much is there? Is Harry Potter more or less realistic than St Trinians? grin

Hassled Tue 27-Jan-15 22:12:53

We haven't got past either filmed during or set in the early 1980s so far. There has to be something we've missed.

Takver Tue 27-Jan-15 22:16:51

Don't know about RL, but I love the film Heathers which takes the trend to extremes!

Maybe Grange Hill and Marmalade Atkins used up all the school-related inspiration of a generation of UK screenwriters? grin

StillProcrastinating Tue 27-Jan-15 22:18:58

No idea, but I was a summer camp counsellor in the states, with 13-15 yr olds, and they were LOVELY. So I doubt it.

Jackieharris Tue 27-Jan-15 22:21:34

My uk high school was incredibly bitchy!

Takver Tue 27-Jan-15 22:22:17

No more modern but of course there is Lindsey Anderson's 'If . . .'

French - post 1980s, though primary rather than secondary: 'Etre et Avoir'

GwenaelleLaGourmande Tue 27-Jan-15 22:23:26

Ooh I have asked the thing about putting the phone down without saying goodbye a lot on MN things americans do threads.

Happens in all the series.

I have never hung up without a bye bye now even in major flouncy argumentative phone conversations.

Takver Tue 27-Jan-15 22:23:41

Actually, I was 19 and just out of school when Heathers came out, I went to see it three times at the cinema in love with JD's approach to school bullies grin

BOFster Tue 27-Jan-15 22:44:35

It's near the end of The Perks Of Being A Wallflower now- it's a beautiful film. But the portrayal of school life is savage. Can you imagine knowingly putting your kids through that? There are probably prisons which are more civilised.

BOFster Thu 29-Jan-15 23:44:05

Just saw this on Twitter...

zinher Thu 29-Jan-15 23:47:22

I wonder the same about some of the British tv I have seen and some of the books. There seems to be terrible bullying in the schools. Is that true?

BOFster Thu 29-Jan-15 23:52:59

I suppose there must be, to a point. Does it really seem institutionalised though? I'd love to hear more about your impressions from films etc if you are not based in Britain- the Hollywood stuff is obviously quite mainstream everywhere, but I'm curious how accurate it is.

BertieBotts Thu 29-Jan-15 23:58:39

I have heard it said that Middle Schools are particularly bad (ages 10-14) because that's when girls tend to be at their bitchiest. By 14-18 most of the worst has settled down which is high school era.

Totally assumptions here based on facebook friends who live in the US blush but I think in the US there is a lot less pressure for the school to be dealing with bullying issues and more expectation that parents will either sort issues out between themselves, or the kids have to toughen up and deal with it because the onus is more on an individual to survive and be strong.

Of course I am sure it is hammed up for the drama in films - it would be totally mundane if normal school life was shown, surely. But I think some of it could be cultural.

BTW current (ish) UK school drama - Teachers, Waterloo Road. Waterloo Road being the most dramatic school I have ever heard of grin while there are familiar elements, it doesn't resemble any real school year.

BOFster Fri 30-Jan-15 00:01:37

I always used to bemoan the lack of lockers at dd1's secondary school. After remembering a few American high school movies, I wonder if it wasn't simply a flashpoint removed...

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