Talk

Advanced search

End of Freedom of Movement for Pets

(50 Posts)
Lico Tue 06-Nov-18 21:38:17

EU pet passports and chips no longer valid if no deal.
Return of blood tests and health certificates.
Even pets are bargaining chips!
It is the will of the people.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

https://www.gov.uk/take-pet-abroad/listed-and-unlisted-countries

Talkinpeece Fri 23-Nov-18 17:26:37

This will be an interesting one for the pets and livestock whose homes and fields criss cross the Irish border numerous times every day....

It would make filming One Man and his Dog more amusing though wink

1tisILeClerc Fri 23-Nov-18 17:20:58

{This will be an interesting one for the pets and livestock whose homes and fields criss cross the Irish border numerous times every day}

Maybe cattle are more intelligent than Westminster MPs after all?

Talkstotrees Fri 23-Nov-18 17:11:54

Just received an email from Vets4Pets, directing me here: www.vets4pets.com/pet-health-advice/brexit-and-pet-travel/

HappyHugs Mon 19-Nov-18 21:12:36

This will be an interesting one for the pets and livestock whose homes and fields criss cross the Irish border numerous times every day....hmm

DGRossetti Wed 07-Nov-18 16:40:01

The “rationale” is, that in the event of No Deal, the UK becomes a third country

You could tattoo that on peoples faces, and some still would never get what it means. Remember, we're British. We can't possibly be a 3rd country. We used to rule the world doncha'know ?

Pissedoffdotcom Wed 07-Nov-18 12:54:04

I remember the quarantine days, as military family our cat had to do quarantine when we did Germany - UK & back again 12 months later!

I didn't vote Brexit BUT one bonus I see of it is that dodgy ass people will no longer find it so easy to bring pets into the country without any thought for what they might be carrying. Certainly a lot safer for our pets!!

ScreamingValenta Wed 07-Nov-18 12:50:29

Well, as I said, this wasn't something I thought of when I voted remain - had I known about it, it would have been another reason to add to my long list.

Buteo Wed 07-Nov-18 12:49:06

And that’s 750 treaties and agreements, BTW.

Buteo Wed 07-Nov-18 12:48:05

I don't understand the rationale for changing this.

The “rationale” is, that in the event of No Deal, the UK becomes a third country and all the UK’s current agreements with the EU are ended.

1tisILeClerc Wed 07-Nov-18 12:47:46

Unfortunately you are falling for UK Gov bullsh£t. Just photocopying the rules in only the start. All the certification that upholds the rules has to be renegotiated, thus UK vets would need to be relicensed/certified that they are working to EU regulations. Again, it is something that CAN be done but it won't happen on the morning of 30th March.

ScreamingValenta Wed 07-Nov-18 12:29:07

Why should it accept "pet passports " that do not accord with EU standards?

Allowing animals unfettered access to mainland Europe without having any knowledge or input into the regulations of the country of origin

My understanding was that all existing EU law would be grandfathered to post-Brexit UK, so I don't believe the existing scheme will become (potentially) unsafe immediately as none of the UK's laws will change overnight - they will still be those into which the EU had knowledge and input, for some time.

A transition period to a new scheme would be needed, but I don't see a reason to scrap the old scheme before it's implemented.

Talkstotrees Wed 07-Nov-18 12:22:34

It’s all about safety Valenta. Allowing animals unfettered access to mainland Europe without having any knowledge or input into the regulations of the country of origin would be dangerous to local wildlife/pets/people.

It’s not ‘political’.

bellinisurge Wed 07-Nov-18 12:22:17

@ScreamingValenta - why should the authorities in any country in the EU take my word for it that my pet is not a danger. Why should it accept "pet passports " that do not accord with EU standards?
There may well be a stage where they say UK pet passports are designated as appropriate but there naturally has to be a transition period when they are not.

1tisILeClerc Wed 07-Nov-18 12:15:34

That will be the government that are having a recess, such is their concern for the country.

1tisILeClerc Wed 07-Nov-18 12:13:43

It is possible that the UK gov may get an agreement with the EU to continue the pet passport scheme pretty much as it is now. BUT in the grand scheme of 'Brexit balls up' it will be a long way down the line when you consider the army may still need to be called in to distribute food and medicines unless the gov actually make a sensible plan that is agreed with the EU.

DGRossetti Wed 07-Nov-18 12:09:17

I'm old enough to remember the days when you simply did not take your pet abroad because of the fear of rabies.

So am I. We used to have terrifying posters in schools in the 70s.

That said, is rabies a rural or urban threat ? I guess urban foxes can be carriers.

My DF never believed the UK was rabies free. It wasn't unknown where he came from in the deep south if Italy.

ScreamingValenta Wed 07-Nov-18 11:46:55

Surely pet travel rules should be founded on safety, not political considerations? It will be no more dangerous to take your pet overseas after Brexit, than it was before. I don't understand the rationale for changing this.

I'm a remain voter, but I have to say this wasn't something I considered as part of my decision to vote remain.

bellinisurge Wed 07-Nov-18 11:39:41

I'm old enough to remember the days when you simply did not take your pet abroad because of the fear of rabies. As for bringing pets in, the quarantine was the only way.
Why do people think we can get around this with pet passports that are no longer valid?
It is stupid and childish to think we can avoid a return to quarantine etc just because it's easier. Loads of things are easier if we stay in the EU. But we aren't. So, put up with it. If this was a key concern for you, you should have voted Remain. And if you did but still didn't realise this would happen, well maybe you can ask your Leave voting friends and neighbours that you didn't manage to convince.
Protect our boarders as a pp has already said.

Peregrina Wed 07-Nov-18 09:30:25

We just need a different agreement.

But contrary to what Theresa May thinks and her warring Government, shouting "Brexit means Brexit" doesn't mean that these laws are going to write themselves. Someone is going to have to sit down and start drafting the law. This is just one of the hundreds of areas which will be affected but no one bothered to think about.

Buteo Wed 07-Nov-18 08:46:46

Maybe I need to start a pet sitting business ...

WitcheryNights Wed 07-Nov-18 08:27:42

@NonaGrey Still applies to assistance dogs.

Such a shame as I regularly take my dog on holiday in Europe and we won't be renewing his passport next year as it's a huge faff with the blood test. We used to pop into France for the weekend and take him down with us. For the record I voted remain!!

1tisILeClerc Wed 07-Nov-18 08:23:22

{This is not about fucking EU law but about pets going on holidays!!}

While it may not be a significant problem for many, it is a very stark indication of how integrated so much of UK life is within the EU. There are so many relatively minor aspects that will change.

EspressoButler Wed 07-Nov-18 08:10:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LuckyKitty13 Wed 07-Nov-18 08:04:56

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

LuckyKitty13 Wed 07-Nov-18 08:03:39

I'm a vet and we have just been issued with guidance from the RCVS (our governing body) to say that owners should be preparing for travel 4 months in advance. So Nov for those wanting to leave after Brexit. We've been advised to perform rabies titre testing (blood tests) for all European travel as this is likely to be the new requirements if there's no deal. I'll try and find a link

Join the discussion

Registering is free, quick, and means you can join in the discussion, watch threads, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Get started »