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Anyone with HR/ redundancy knowledge?

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yoigh · 10/01/2021 11:25

So I have my redundancy meeting on Thursday,
I'm shielding and also pregnant, so mine is the only one being done by phone.
They have given us a sheet to fill in and score ourselves, it says it has to be done from within the last 12 months, however I have been shielding for 8 months of that and then am currently pregnant (5 months) I have only been at work for like 3 months and was pregnant in them, and my performance wasn't as good as normal due to morning sickness.
I feel like I am going to be at a disadvantage compared to others, any tips?

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yoigh · 10/01/2021 13:16

Anyone?

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TimeToCloseTheDoor · 10/01/2021 13:22

Base your performance score around the last full 12 months at work pre pregnancy and fight your corner.

It would be unfair due to pregnancy/morning sickness otherwise

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Hoppinggreen · 10/01/2021 13:23

Ask for this to be moved to Employment issues, there are a couple of well qualified and experienced HR experts on there

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3beesinmybonnet · 10/01/2021 13:25

Look at the 2010 Equalities Act which gives some protection to pregnant women. Ask them how many people are at risk of redundancy in your company. If more than 20 the consultation process should have stopped them taking into account time spent on official shielding

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yoigh · 10/01/2021 17:07

Thanks for all your help, the other issue is I haven't been there 2 years, I'm 4 months off that.

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TimeToCloseTheDoor · 10/01/2021 19:17

@yoigh

Thanks for all your help, the other issue is I haven't been there 2 years, I'm 4 months off that.

Does the scoring sheet mention anything about length of service?
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yoigh · 11/01/2021 11:04

@TimeToCloseTheDoor no nothing about length of service. Am currently filling in my form now as it has to be done by tonight so they can mark it, but I'm finding really hard to find examples from the last 12 months when I haven't been there very much!

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TabbyStar · 11/01/2021 11:11

Pregnant then Screwed might be worth a look for information and advice pregnantthenscrewed.com/

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Aprilx · 11/01/2021 11:28

[quote yoigh]@TimeToCloseTheDoor no nothing about length of service. Am currently filling in my form now as it has to be done by tonight so they can mark it, but I'm finding really hard to find examples from the last 12 months when I haven't been there very much! [/quote]
I wouldn’t worry too much about the time frame, it doesn’t make sense in your scenario.

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yoigh · 11/01/2021 11:33

Thanks @Aprilx and @TabbyStar

So my plan is, to finish writing up the selection sheet I need to, using examples from the last 18 months as I haven't been there, I will then email back it tonight, and put on the email about it not being from the last 12 months due to shielding and pregnant.

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Margaritatime · 11/01/2021 11:45

I would add on the bottom of the selection sheet that as you are currently pregnant you are in the maternity protected period and are therefore entitled to the protections this offers.

For your information:
If you are selected for redundancy you are legally entitled to be offered any suitable alternative before other employees.
You can be made redundant but your employer needs to be very careful. If a team of 10 are all made redundant then it is likely this will be fair even if you are in the protected period. If they only make 5 redundant the need very robust evidence/selection criteria for you to be one of them.

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yoigh · 11/01/2021 11:51

Thanks @Margaritatime so they are cutting hours, first so if everyone takes a hour cut then no redundancies otherwise, it's redundancies, they are cutting a lot of hours but my job will still be available with just less people/hours, I have a screenshot a section on the acas about pregnancy and redundancy to put on the email.

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Margaritatime · 11/01/2021 12:01

Good idea to include the ACAS guidance.

If they are cutting hours this may impact on your SMP. This calculator will show the weeks they need to use www.gov.uk/pay-leave-for-parents

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yoigh · 11/01/2021 12:05

@Margaritatime I'm not at 25 weeks yet which is a pain, I'm only 18 weeks!

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Margaritatime · 11/01/2021 12:27

If I remember correctly they use the 8 week period prior to the 15th week before EWC. So you may just be starting this period now. When do they reduce your hours?

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yoigh · 11/01/2021 12:33

@Margaritatime they haven't yet, it just depends on whether enough people take a hours reduction or whether redundancies are required basically. I'm shielding (it is pregnancy related- heart condition with pregnancy) currently so won't be in work till at at least mid February at least.

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Margaritatime · 11/01/2021 12:37

I think this means you should get 9/10ths of your current salary for the first 6 weeks. Then SMP.

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