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Advice on working for two companies

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Cantfindasitter · 23/09/2017 11:31

I am a Mental Health Nurse by trade however currently manage a nursing agency. 100% office management based work.
I recently registered with another agency to do temp work (I didn't want my current employer knowing as I don't particularly get on well with the directors) and have been working via other company at weekends as a nurse.
Is this wrong? Could I be fired from permanent management role if they found out? What can I do to ensure damage limitation so I don't lose my job..... doubts have now crept into my mind after talking to a friend, however everyone else who knows hasn't thought it was a problem.

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StereophonicallyChallenged · 23/09/2017 11:37

If they stipulate in your contract that you can't have other employment then they may potentially have grounds for disciplinary leading to dismissal.
Apart from that, they don't own you or your non working time Smile

Be aware that hmrc will probably split your tax code though and it's pretty easy for her/payroll to guess you have another job.

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StereophonicallyChallenged · 23/09/2017 11:38

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Cantfindasitter · 23/09/2017 11:44

My contract says that I will not compete or solicit any business from organisations I had dealing with during my employment. (I'm not working with any hospitals that my permanent job work with) I am working with totally different hospitals and the contract doesn't say I'm not allowed a secondary employment - just checked

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moutonfou · 23/09/2017 11:50

Agencies almost certainly have a contractual clause stopping you working for a competitor... you need to get your contract out and check.

Under Working Time Regulations companies are also entitled to give you certain rest breaks - at least 24 consecutive hours off per week, or 48 consecutive hours off per fortnight - and (if you haven't signed an opt-out) they are also required to limit your hours to 48 hours per week. If an employer is aware you have two jobs, they have to ensure these breaks are being given across both jobs. Thus if you are not getting a day off per week or working less than 48 hours per week, you are potentially causing both of your companies to break the law (although they would have some protection if they didn't know that you had the other job). But as soon as either knows you have another job, they will have a legal responsibility to ensure you are getting your rest breaks, including, if necessary, limiting your hours or refusing you work.

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Cantfindasitter · 23/09/2017 11:57

I didn't think of that tbh, I think ultimately I will have to stop doing to temp work and inform them this week. What would be the best way to do this?

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GRW · 23/09/2017 17:04

I am a nurse with 2 jobs as well, both employers know about the other job and I haven't been questioned about doing too many hours. Sometimes it's difficult to say no when my zero hours contract bank nursing job keep asking me to pick up shifts.

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Mrsmorton · 23/09/2017 17:21

Does your indemnity cover you for both jobs as well? Sounds like it should but always worth checking.

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GRW · 23/09/2017 17:44

Yes I am a member of the nurses union the RCN, and I think it's not unusual to have a second job. The second employer is not a competitor with the main job. I wasn't aware I shouldn't do more than 48 hours a week.

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GertiesEyebrow · 23/09/2017 22:25

If you're NHS you need to declare any other work. You also need to de lare conflicts of interest. Even if you don't think there is a conflict, someone else might so it's best to put it down.
Also, how does it affect your rest time?

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GRW · 23/09/2017 23:51

I am not in the NHS. I work for a hospice at home charity, as well as bank night shifts in the community. Both employers are aware and are ok with it. It does mean I don't get as many days off as I should.

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StereophonicallyChallenged · 24/09/2017 09:09

Working time regulations are a joke anyway. They can opted out of and the breaks between shifts etc only apply per employment. If it's not in your contract then you're fine to do it op Smile

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