Very Urgent: Need to quit my job today!! Help! Complicated!

[jaabaar]

Hi

Please I need help with quitting my job.
I was made redundant and last day of work is end December.
So now I have found a job and they want me to start on 26/11 as the person who leaves needs to train me!
I was told when I was made redundant that if I found a job earlier I could leave earlier.
Now they say no, I cant leave, the earliest they let me leave is 17/12! But that is too late as the person who leaves the job in the new company leaves on the 12/12??? She needs to train me as nobody there will know the job?

Now I have to write my notice letter they asked of me.
I have no notice period in my contract. I have worked 10 years here.
Theoretically I could leave after one week???

How do I write the letter??? Have to hand it in today.

Please please help!
thanks a bunch!!
x

[WineOhWhy]

Are they trying to get out of giving you your redundancy pay on the basis that you are leaving voluntarily?

[rockinhippy]

Speak to ACAS they will give you current advice as regards your situation HERE

[YouSeveredHead]

Wine totally agree.

Iirc the worst they could do is to sue you which sounds unlikely given you would have been leaving in a few weeks anyway. Or give a reference which says you left without notice, well I think most employers would be understanding if you explained.

[jaabaar]

I worked for 10 years. I have no notice period stated in my contract.
Does it mean I have a work notice of only 1 week even if i worked for 10 years???

When I asked today if it would affect my redundnacy money if left earlier and handed in the resignation letter today as requested, they said no it would not.

God I do not know what to do. My problem is I NEVER stand up for myself. Always feel obliged to accomodate an employer.

:((((((((((

Dont know what to do, have to do it by 4.30.

[MeDented]

I would put all those details in your letter of resignation i.e. stating that you were initially told you would be able to leave earlier if you found a new job, remind them you have also been told that leaving early will not affect your redundancy (mention the names of the people that have told you these things) and go on to explain that you are trying to be as fair as possible to all parties, but given that you have already been made redundant from this job it is important you secure your financial future for yourself and family so will need to leave on xx/xx/xx to be able to accept the position you have offered. You could always offer to be available by telephone or outside of your new work hours to answer any queries that might arise after you leave. Good luck.

[jaabaar]

MeDented: Excellent, thank you so much! Will do that.
Thank you to all who have taken the time to reply back so quickly!

Mumsnetters have helped me many times in my life with very good advise!
It really does help along lifes little turns!

Appreciate
x

[flowery]

Too late I see, but there is something called 'counter-notice' that you can give if you want to leave earlier but preserve your redundancy pay. Your employer would need to formally object to that, otherwise you could leave when your counter notice was up.

[MeDented]

How did you get o. Jaabaar?

[jaabaar]

Hi
Discussed again with boss before writing the letter.
He finally agreed to let me go by end of this month instead of end of December.

I did tell him that my notice period is 1 week if nothing is in the contract but that i am willing to work 3 weeks.

He said NO NO, the notice period is 1 month because I did work for so many years for the company. I knwo that is incorrect.

But I jsut thought, this is one to better let go and leave in good terms with this compromise.

So I think it went well.... I would have liked to leave earlier as I would have had the chance to get more training before person leaves....

But I am lucky enough to have found a job...

Thank you all again! So appreciate the support!

x

[MeDented]

That's great, glad you could find a compromise. He might be right about the notice by the way, I think the minimum notice period creeps up after you have worked somewhere for more than 2 years. It would have been difficult for them to impose though and you are right, better to compromise and leave on good terms. Good luck in your new job!

[jaabaar]

Got the contract for the new job.......

Very unhappy about it.....

Even thinking of not taking the job??? Is that irresponsible?

How long after gettign the contract do I have to respond to it with my concerns?

so disppointed... have done a job I hated for over a decade, dont want to get into the same position again :(

Life never is once straight forward is it.....

[flowery]

What the problem with it jaabaar?

[rockinhippy]

Is it the 6 month contract that form DH looking into moving jobs & discussions with various friends seems to be the norm these days ??

DH was offered another job a while ago, all sounded great until the contract came out & it was for only 6 months - he would have been leaving a company he'd worked for for over 15 yrs - discussing it with friends in the know, seems it is the norm in the current economic climate - several friends have the same contract, but its renewed every 6 months - not ideal, but seems its the companies way of taking on staff without committing themselves to hefty redundancy payments if later down the line it they can't afford the funds - our local council apparently now do this with all there staff

[jaabaar]

It is permanent although it has 9 months probation, which is ok as well.
But it is the conditions attached to it on behaviour, sick leave etc etc,
even paper for notes has to be used on both sides....
I do not want to put to many details as I am sure someone workign would recongize this contract conditions!

It is just that I felt it was a nice company and now I feel it is like a police state where you cannot move without a regulation being in place?

I have been very unhappy in my job. I was made redundant and I felt I was out of jail! I do not want to get into another jail......

Does anyone else work in a big company and got a book with conditions attached to contract and it details even the most minor of things like what time there is coffee and etc?

So disappointed, I usually have a good instinct, but was completely wrong about the impression I got of the work environment when I was there..

Am I silly to refuse the job? I do need the money.... difficult to tke DD out of nrusery and back in a gain with long waiting list...

[WipsGlitter]

Sometimes companies have a lot of guidance but it is only there to prevent incidents, you should maybe see if you can visit your future place of work and see what sort of vibe there is.

In most of my jobs the staff handbook would have stated what time tea-break was. And would have had lots of details about disciplinary procedures etc etc.