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It is obvious that ALL children do not like sports or performance in same

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GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 10:55:02

Give the kids a say in this

reallytired Mon 13-Jun-11 10:59:37

Kids don't get a say in Maths lessons, they don't get a say in spelling tests. A undiagnosed dyslexic chid suffers humilation in the classroom everyday. Many children with learning difficulites shun reading. Why should a child be allowed to shun PE?

Good PE teaching will differenitate and include children of all ablities. A good PE teacher will not humilate any child. There needs to be a balance between competitive sport and fitness of life. Learning to lose gracefully is an important skill.

mollymole Mon 13-Jun-11 11:00:00

at what age do you want this to start

Butterbur Mon 13-Jun-11 11:08:01

Everybody needs to find some sport/dance/activity that they can do to keep physically fit and healthy.

Schools have a twofold role to play:

To give opportunities for sport to all children, some of whom have no other chance to do it. And I think the National Curriculum's 2 hours is paltry, and their should be at least an hour a day of sport for all children.

To expose children to different activities so that they can see which ones they enjoy.

Next you'll be saying that kids spend too much time sitting on the sofa playing computer games and getting obese. Allowing them to opt out of school PE is not going to help much is it?

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 11:21:05

really tired and butter bur...please get your cards on the table are you following Toryled government policy? are Calm Down cameron and the bankers pulling some strings,

There are good PE teachers and bully PE teachers. You are even suggesting parents do not know there kids better than teacher. Come off it; and this debate could be 22 carat gold p[re league.

I AM VERY KEEN ON SOME THINGS. But I do not force my will on other people get it?

cat64 Mon 13-Jun-11 11:28:33

Message withdrawn

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 11:29:04

Lets have the real questions answered p;ease

You will kow that 2 children have died in presumably (compulsory) school runs in recent years Whats the injury rate?

We dont need royal proclmations form teachers. We need real debate/ Get stuck in .(But its not compulsory ok)

Butterbur Mon 13-Jun-11 11:33:29

What did they die of, Gabby? If it was an undiagnosed cardiac problem, then their cards were already marked.

meditrina Mon 13-Jun-11 11:41:33

One of the cases (2008) was Jack Sheriff - a boy very keen on sports who suffered a completely unforeseeable heart attack.

Butterbur Mon 13-Jun-11 11:54:10

A tragedy, of course, but - and have just googled him - it was at the start of the course, so hardly due to bullying PE teachers.

meditrina Mon 13-Jun-11 12:15:49

PE in the National Curriculum. The 2009 review was not implemented, so it's from 2007 (not Tory!). It's all couched in terms of the acquisition and application of skills, not competition. How well individual schools and teachers deliver the NC is a question that goes beyond just PE.

reallytired Mon 13-Jun-11 12:26:55

I don't that the odd freak death is reason to allow children to opt out of physical excercise. I sure more lives are saved by making children do PE than are lost.

Two deaths among several million school children is a pretty low stastic. When children die, it is hideous, but we need to get a sense of proportion.

GabbyLoggon, do you consider fitness for life important. My son is weak at PE. If the choice was left to him the only excercise he would get would be clicking the mouse on the PC. No, I am not a PE teacher.

bitsyandbetty Mon 13-Jun-11 12:28:11

I hated sport with a passion at school and used to have a verucca for years to avoid sport and showers. I had absolutely no aptitude for it. My DM used to give me a letter the day after sports day to say I was ill so I could bunk off. Would I encourage schools to give pupils the choice? no. The way sport is taught in schools is now far superior to when I was at school and even if not, some of my best school memories were of laughing as the teacher made me go round and round the track because I refused to run the 800m. It has not left me scarred for life. Incidentally, now cycle to work every day and am training for marathon so did not stop me being fit in later life.

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 12:28:24

There was a girl of 1o or 11 whodied. The school said she volunteered for school run with older children so what is it compulsory or voluntary...Are you saying parents views dont matter on their own children? More loco than inlocoif you didg the slang

meditrina Mon 13-Jun-11 12:33:46

Do you mean Rianna Wingett? She had undiagnosed hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. A tragedy, but she could have died at any time. I cannot find any suggestion that her parents had objections to her participation in sport.

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 12:42:29

Is it totallycompulsory or voluntory doteachers know better than parentabout their own Kids(sic) as Gabby Logan seems to callthem Why is not Gabby logan getting incolved in the debate.Its her debate. Is she here under a nick name? I am suprised about the banker bit. Will all the schools sign up?

reallytired Mon 13-Jun-11 12:56:34

How would making sport voluntary save the lives of either Rianna Wingett or Jack Sheriff. Both of them very fairly sporty. Neither of them were fat lumps who refused to do school PE.

If my son refused to partisicipate in a school lesson, then I would punish him.
My son hates Art. Should he be alloed to skip Art?

GabbyLoggon, do you ever make your child do things that he does not want to do?

Colleger Mon 13-Jun-11 14:17:12

Message deleted by Mumsnet.

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 15:02:45

If you dont know if the sporting plan is voluntary or compulsory or optional keep out of it

Kindly remove the offensive words in your post. This is an education site get some. . Colleger rude boy.

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 15:03:49

will other [posters ask colleger to remove his foul post; and get some manners

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 15:08:29

Back to the subject...Mrs Yorath-Logan tells us on her mumsnet site that she is involved in a bankets scheme (nice blokes) to push presumably compulsory sport in schoo;s. Is this also a Tory governemnt scheme?

And it it meant to be compullsory...Or do parents have a say. (the children dont belong to the schools)

Lets have some answers and less Colleger abuse. than you. Am I taking the teaching profession out of their comfort zone. Good

Colleger Mon 13-Jun-11 15:21:42

No, these three messages are more garbled than the previous ones! shock

Colleger Mon 13-Jun-11 15:22:05

Lol at me getting an education!

MindyMacready Mon 13-Jun-11 15:23:20

Can someone please translate?

GabbyLoggon Mon 13-Jun-11 15:25:24

colleger I have been in more newspapers than you have had hot dinners Colleger. I shall take action on your vulgarity/ (Is that sentence out of your comfort zone?)

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