'Is there anything good about men?'

[MiTochondrialEve]

Just a little side dish to the thread about orgasms

Chew and ponder...

[AnyFucker]

god, that was boring lol

I gave up after the 1st paragraph

< philistine emoticon >

[yama]

I read the first paragraph and the conclusion.

The conclusion was quite interesting. I didn't see the orgasms thread (sob).

[BarcodeZebra]

Yes.

It's our low self esteem.

[LucyEllensmummy]

feck, i didnt get much further - seriously badly written.

Where is the orgasm thread???

[MiTochondrialEve]

orgams thread on AIBU

[LucyEllensmummy]

are you a scientist M.Eve? Intriguing nickname

[MiTochondrialEve]

It's MT!

[MiTochondrialEve]

and in me dreams!

[MiTochondrialEve]

maybe in 10 years!

[ABetaDad]

Scan down the linked article but just read the bolded sentences to get the gist.

The orgasm thread is better though.

[ABetaDad]

Actually - just had a thought about the one thing in the article that did really catch my eye.

Only 40% of men who have ever lived went on to have children but 80% of women did.

Its the same in all animal populations. As the artcile says, males tend to get killed doing extreme or dangerous stuff (e.g hunting, fighting) before they have kids or tend to not have childen because they are at the extreme low end of mental ability.

Hey that makes me an extraordinarily evolutionarily sucessful male having had 2 kids!

[MyNameIsInigoMontoya]

I read it all - it's heavy going the way it's written/printed, but interesting - some food for thought!

[MiTochondrialEve]

It would ABetaDad, but the genes in you will have been carried in both male and female bodies throughout evolutuonary time - just as in me they will have been in males too. The big corrolate is probably because males are statisically shown to endulge in more risky behaviiour than females, not that they have faced more general risk.

[yama]

You read it all Inigo? Prepare to die.

(Sorry: it's from the film)

[MiTochondrialEve]

In other words, we are all exraoprdinarily successful. But thats not forgetting also blood relatives. Some brothers will have forsaken mating opportunity (or lack of it more like) to provide protection/sustenence for blood relevives - sisters, neices, nephews. Just becasue an individual doesn't mate, doesn;t mean his genes don;t carry on in the gene pool. This is the environment cooperation and alturism evoluved

[LucyEllensmummy]

MT dont become a scientist, you will be poor and frustrated

[ABetaDad]

MiTochondrialEve - so men can be selfless, lay down their life for others, and forsake mating?

Well thats a bit of a different take on the usual media stereotype of men being selfish, cowardly, lazy good for nothings who would mate with anything given half a chance.

[MiTochondrialEve]

Oh. yes, and women can too. Men are more risky though, take more risks to mate or impress females, which notches up their mortality rate also.

[MiTochondrialEve]

Aw, LEM. You sound like your talking from expereince.

[MiTochondrialEve]

Great food for thought Inigo, I agree!

[27T]

We're all rubbish - end of discussion.

[MiTochondrialEve]

you male or female 27T. The link is actually very positive about men, if you read it.

[BarcodeZebra]

Your unutterable perfection must be a heavy load LeQueen. But what do I know? I'm shit after all.

[DadInsteadofMum]

Folding maps?