Alan Hawes

[mammyoftwo]

I still get upset when I think what trauma Clodagh and her sons must have gone through. Like so many others, I ask "why?".

Is it ok to ask what was "the fall from grace" that was imminant for murderer Alan Hawes? What could have been so bad?

[mammyoftwo]

it's just so heartbreaking

[Setsailwithallmylove]

I wonder was she going to leave him? Ask for a divorce?

It's awful - the extended family must find it so hard to come to terms with it.

RIP to Clodagh & Children

[mammyoftwo]

You're right, so difficult for the family. But if they know he was going to have a "fall from grace" they must have learned what it was. I just find it odd they haven't disclosed that information publically. Surely, they'd want to heap all shame on his name, and make all his wrong-doings public, if they knew he had been up to no good? Why would they want to "protect" him by not making known what the "fall from grace was about"?

[Setsailwithallmylove]

I suppose the public don't need to know the details? For the extended family I imagine they just want to forget about him - it would serve no purpose to reveal this information?

Or perhaps it's something that he had been accused of but now can't be proven as he's not there to respond?

[FlaviaAlbia]

The inquest has happened yet has it? I don't think anything will be made public until during or after that.

[FlaviaAlbia]

Sorry, typo. I meant, the inquest hasn't happened yet.

[mammyoftwo]

fair point, maybe for legal reasons it won't be released 'til inquest.

true, setsail the public don't need to know, am guessing there are probably people in the local community who know what it is

[LapdanceShoeshine]

He’d been caught wanking to porn on school premises

metro.co.uk/2018/01/02/teacher-killed-wife-and-three-sons-after-being-caught-watching-porn-at-school-7198346/

[LapdanceShoeshine]

“Medical records and counselling notes revealed he had been hiding his depression and severe mental illness.”
“Cavan Coroner’s Court heard Hawe had told his psychotherapist: ‘People think of me as a pillar of the community. If only they knew.’”

[Mumguiltisabitch]

I saw a rumour on another website which I'm not going to repeat, but I was much worse than watching porn at school. And if it's true it will come out sooner or later.

[Mumguiltisabitch]

*it was much worse

[mathanxiety]

I have been wondering about this ever since it happened.

[SchoolMoney]

mumguiltisabitch I saw the one you're talking about (I think). There's no way that will stay hidden but I do feel for everyone else involved (NOT him).

[mammyoftwo]

mumguilt and school money any clues where that site is?

[mammyoftwo]

The metro article doesn't give any references, is what it says considered true?