bit of support and hand holding needed please??

[meerkatsandkookaburras]

hi all, ive posted on here before but not on any buses as it stresses me not sure if anyone will remember me?!

anyway weve been ttc for over 2 years now, its my second child but first with dp, my first took almost 2 yrs to concieve so im pretty sure there is something wrong with me!! Weve been referred to the hospital for tests etc and am having a scan on tuesday - normal type one then an internal one!! I am supposed to be having blood tests too on day 2-5 and day 21, however things are not going to plan!! My period is now very late, im getting negatives on tests - do at least one a day (obsessive i know!). No signs of coming on period at all, no spotting, few queezy feelings but probably they are just in my head as i was very ill with sickness with ds and its so nothing at all like that its just odd queezy feeling - think im probably trying to conince myself i could be pregnant! i phoned the consultant last week and said what should i do given how late i am, she said to give it til tuesday when i have scan, mention it to them and then they will tell me if by a miricle im pregnant! if im not which is obviously most likely then to ring her back and see what to do next!! I am 17 days late now and on tuesday therefor will be 19days late if nothing happens by then which is very late imo! i normally have 28 day cycle average but varies between 26/7-29, generally always 28/29 though! once last summer this happened for no explained reason, then i was 16 days late, gp wouldnt do anything or even care but then my gps are useless which is why im glad they have finally agreed to refer me to hospital!! other than in the summer when i had the one long cycle ive always been relatively regular, odd time a few days late or a few days early but nothing major like this!!

its really getting me down now weve been trying for 27 cycles, i dont know how much more of this i can take, i guess the results might show something up but what if they dont and they say nothing is wrong and i should just keep at it, not that i dont love bd-ing but i just cant keep ttc forever its really getting me down i feel like my body is so useless not just not concieving but now also that its not even doing what it should either. can anyone tell me this has happened to them?? or what they might do next?! would i just be a blood test anyway if i dont get af then see what that shows?! what could it be other than pbviously being pregnant which im sure is very doubtful at 17 days late the hormone for the pg tests would surely show positive by now unless i ovulated extremely late?!

sorry for moaning on i just know people here will understand, ive spoke to a few friends who all either say i must be pregnant being that late, or the "stop worrying and im sure you will get pregnant" grrrrrr yeah because its that easy, soem people ttc for a month before concieving i clearly dont and im not that worried im sure that it would mess up my cycle this much, ive been more stressed in past and stayed regular!!!! plus sick of comments from people that i should be greatful i have one, i mean dont get me wrong i am but that doesnt stop me being upset i cant seem to have another. And my ds is autistic and if one more person tells me i must be hoping this baby if i ever have it will be normal ill slap them one!!!!!!

anyway thanks to anyone whos listened to my moan
xx

[Loujalou]

Hi there - couldn't just leave you. Do you have any idea of when / if you might have ovulated? It might be an anovulatory cycle which can be longer.

I also want to deck any one who says relax and it will happen!

[AttilaTheMeerkat]

meerkats

Have had both irregular and painful periods for years. Both had underlying causes. I am now a parent after receiving fertility treatment.

Was wondering why they are doing a "normal" type ultrasound; that will likely not show anything or be at all useful. An internal ultrasound on the other hand will give them more clues; it will show them the state of your uterine cavity and ovaries. I am wondering if your ovaries are polycystic; this could account for the irregular cycles.

Irregular periods are more often than not caused by hormonal imbalances (other possible causes are problems with the thyroid gland or pituitary gland); its nothing to do with stress.

Blood tests should be done also; a day 2 is done to check and importantly compare both your LH and FSH levels. In a condition like PCO the level of LH is higher than that of FSH. LH and FSH are very important hormones as they kickstart the ovulation process; if these two levels are awry then ovulation will be affected. The day 21 is a standard test done to measure progesterone; a level of 30 or over would indicate ovulation has occured.
Other hormones like prolactin should be chcekd to see if that is raised.

If periods are irregular blood tests can be done according to calendar days i.e the 2nd/3rd and 21st of the month.

Both of you should be tested further and in tandem with your tests to see if there are any male factor problems.

Am glad you are being seen on Tuesday; if at all possible do not attend this initial appt on your own. Your man should go with you as he can ask questions and provide you with moral support.

Good luck for Tuesday.

I will leave you with this thought - you will need to be persistant in order to get answers. It is all too easy to be fobbed off and do not ever accept a so called "diagnosis" (as it is not) of unexplained subfertility.

[lucybrad]

stress delays my ovulation without a doubt hence lengthening my cycle. Its been varying between 26-36 days, and if i get stressed out at the ewcm stage then it just carries on for the next days and subsequently my af arrives later that month. This month i estimate ov on day 17 so i know i will not see af until at least day 30 this month.
can you remember if anything happened during your ov time that could have put you out?

[meerkatsandkookaburras]

many thanks all, i cant think of anything that happened around ovulation that bothered me enough to stop it or delay it, though i guess i dont know if i even ovulated?!

thanks for th infor attillathemeerkat, i think the normal type scan is just to check in case pregnant before they do the internal from what i can gather?! im so nervous about the scan!!! hopefully i will get af before long and then they will do the 2 and 21 day blood tests though if i dont get af soon i think they will have to rethink and just do tests anyway and see if they show up anything as so far this cycle is 45 days and not showing any signs of af coming!! i guess maybe the scan will show something that explains why af hasnt been?!

if i have polycystic ovaries will that show on this internal scan?? is that possible with being generally regular but then every 5-6 months a random cycle like this?? or is it usually a case of always irregular with pcos??

thanks for all your help im so stressed about what could be wrong now as ive never been this late before!

once had scan results and blood tests will be bak to ask more im sure, you are so knowledgable! thanks