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(22 Posts)
Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 31-Mar-14 00:28:30

2.6 year old has high temp 39.5, fast breathing 70 bpm and sounds chesty and grunting- given inhaler helped audible wheeze go but still chesty sounding - gave calpol at 11.30 he threw up straight after (always does, very hard to give medicine to) - DH says wait till morning, I am not sure if his breathing should wait that long - if we ring 111 they either send an ambulance (no need) or take 2 hours to call you back depending on how you answer first questions - we have a good children's A&E but maybe he can wait - DH had said we should give him 30 mins to see if something improves which is why I am distracting myself - will probably just self refer but always feel like I overreact and DH is too calm...
Anyway this has become a bit of a ramble rather than a question - it is so hard, if he just had high temp it would be fine or just sounded chesty - it's the combo and fact he won't take calpol - 111 may be happy medium...

Anyone awake?

MrsShrek3 Mon 31-Mar-14 00:40:07

I'd have to say head for A&E imho. no, you're not over reacting. "Abnormal" breathing is always a top priority, irrespective of the cause. it's potentially life threatening. get seen, and try to stay calm so he stays calm too. good luck x

Isabeller Mon 31-Mar-14 00:43:55

A&E. hope all ok x

Morrigu Mon 31-Mar-14 00:44:01

Hospital I'm afraid. Fast breathing should always be checked out imo from experience with asthmatic ds.

Deb2202 Mon 31-Mar-14 00:44:39

If it was me I'd sling him in the car and get seen at a&e, 70 bpm is pretty fast, grunting and chesty also not good.

it might not be his 'breathing' it could be that he's having to work hard to fight infection/temp.

I'd get him checked, follow your instincts.

purpleminion Mon 31-Mar-14 00:45:12

Mother of asthmatic dd here. I would ALWAYS have breathing issues checked out by doctor. I have seen several times how quickly they can deteriorate at that age.

How is his colour? Any blue tinge to around the mouth?

Is he working hard to breathe?

Eyelet Mon 31-Mar-14 00:47:28

A&E, my gut would be that the fever is causing him to work hard but with a child I wouldn't take the risk.

FannyFifer Mon 31-Mar-14 00:48:18

Grunting not great, is his stomach going in quite a bit when breathing?
I would bring to children's A&E as I have children with asthma & wouldn't take the risk.

ViviDeBeauvoir Mon 31-Mar-14 01:10:40

Definitely take him in.
If his breathing is affected it's a no-brainer IMO especially if he has asthma.
Grunting can sometimes be caused by high temperature - my DS2 had this and it only went down after I took him to OOH and he got given antibiotics for tonsillitis (painkillers didn't touch it)

capet Mon 31-Mar-14 01:24:56

A+e.
And you should have some suppositories in your house-para link for when he can't keep calpol down. Important to keep his temp under control.
Is he a known asthmatic or has just had previous viral wheezy episodes?
How many puffs of inhaler has he had? Salbutamol?
But always better to bring to a and e if any signs of respiratory distress.

olympicsrock Mon 31-Mar-14 01:32:10

Dr here - I say A&E right now please. If any worse 999

Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 31-Mar-14 01:34:24

Thanks for replies - at a & e waiting to be seen

Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 31-Mar-14 02:22:23

In a bay at A&E, temp still 39.5 heart rate 165 and Oxygen Sats 93 - nurse gone to get medication to bring temp down - he looks so poorly now -

whattodoforthebest2 Mon 31-Mar-14 02:30:49

Handholding Winter

He's in good hands, the medication should take effect fairly quickly.

Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 31-Mar-14 03:27:07

Already looking better, chest infection just need to get heart rate lower etc but hopefully will all come down soon -

redcaryellowcar Mon 31-Mar-14 03:36:23

Only just started reading but even from your thread title i thought 'go to a&e' i think you have a gut feeling on if you are comfortable and i think if you feel worried its a good indication that it ought to.be checked!
Hope you are ok and looked after well in hospital.

Rachie1986 Mon 31-Mar-14 04:00:25

Hope he feels better soon :-)

Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 31-Mar-14 07:52:12

Just an update - we are home with antibiotics - everything nearer normal - will go back if breathing gets worse - thanks for replies-

whattodoforthebest2 Mon 31-Mar-14 08:15:07

I'm glad he's a bit better, such a relief. When they're little they can improve and deteriorate in a very short space of time.

Isabeller Mon 31-Mar-14 10:02:58

Thank you for updating, so glad you went.

Morrigu Mon 31-Mar-14 10:21:12

Glad he's ok. Always best to be on the safe side with regards to breathing issues. Hope he gets better soon.

MrsShrek3 Mon 31-Mar-14 23:30:01

pleased you went asap. thanks for update too, I wondered about him a lot during the day. hope you can all catch up on some zzzs now after last night's epic nightshift!

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