TikTok, Hunker et all - your opinions please URGENTLY

[Klaw]

I am due to visit a couple tomorrow to see if I can offer them PN Doula support.

They have an 11 wk dd and only found out on second phone call to arrange time and get address that they subscribe to She who should not be mentioned.

Things had been going fairly well to 8 weeks but now baby is not feeding well and comes off crying shortly after latching on, especially at early evening feed.

I had originally suggested colic and food intolerances as things to look into and perhaps that she should keep a diary so that any pattern might be found.

But now that I know they are following CBF I wonder if that could be the root of the problem?

Thoughts please?

[charchargabor]

Here's a link about normal infant fussiness. Could it be just the witching hour in the evening, or do you think there are other times when baby isn't feeding well? Colic and food intolerances a possibility, but I would lean towards normal fussiness first and foremost. DD's didn't settle down until at least 12 weeks, perhaps later, iirc [haze of exhaustion]. Following SWMNBN could pose a problem, not sure it would cause this sort of behaviour, but would really encourage them to drop it and just do everything on demand. This is probably rubbish and I'm sure you know much more than me, but I hope I helped a bit!

[Klaw]

Thanks so much, I followed that link to an article about 'examing the evidence' on sheduled feeding v cue feeding. Exactly what I needed to back me up when I suggest she consider ditching CBF.

Excuse my ignorance, what does SWMNBN stand for?

[MarsLady]

You used the phrase yourself Klaw... She Who Should Not Be Named!

[tiktok]

Klaw - I would investigate th possibility that milk supply has not kept up with the baby's needs.

Reliance on scheduled feeds can lead to a marked drop in supply after a few weeks. The mother's milk supply can be generous enough at the beginning, and can withstand the impact of scheduling, but after a while, it falls apart....

[Klaw]

D'oh! Of course Mars!!!!! In my defence, I was tired.....

[witchandchips]

could not just be supply could also be that is baby that wants to sleep +feed little and often during the day so fussiness could be that baby is overtired at the evening feed having been kept awake too long in the late afternoon.

[Klaw]

I start tomorrow and we ditch SHMNBN! Hopefully mum will be content with the natural routine that she and baby find. She was terrified of it all going pearshaped but acknowledges that she is struggling now, is stressed and anxious so accepts that baby led feeding is worth a try

Mum and dad are both lovely, and baby is a total cutie!

[Klaw]

feck they dispensed with my services as they came across someone experienced in, and willing to do, SWMNBN....

Each to their own

[Aitch]

arses

[Klaw]

[tiktok]

Oh dear....so some people are making a living out of being experienced in, and willing to 'do', these 'methods'.