does anyone know about oxytocin nasal spray?

[Monkeybird]

and can it help speed up my letdown reflex so I don't have a striking baby all the time?

Someone on my plea for strokes and smiles thread suggested it as am having nightmares on and off (he's sleeping right now but another battle this evening) with breast refusal etc..

Letdown - after being too fast - is now too slow for him and am trying everything in attempt not to give up completely.

[verylittlecarrot]

[Monkeybird]

is it bad then vlc?

sorry, have I dropped you in it? (I didn't name names...)

[tiktok]

??? am I not getting something???

I expect you can still get an oxytocin nasal spray from somewhere, though I think it's a blast from the past....why not ask the chemist? It would deffo be on scrip, though, not over the counter.

I have never heard or read of it being prescribed for nursing strike though...

[verylittlecarrot]

I read something once about it triggering let down (the nursing srtike thing being secondary to the slow let down thingy). But I think I read it was only prescribed in the period very shortly after birth.

I get the impression MB that you've tried all of the standard "condition your letdown" techniques from Kellymom etc, without much success. I really am scraping the barrel with this idea, and it may be wildly inappropriate. (Hence my worrying about tiktok disapproving of me proffering dodgy advice). I just wanted to mention it in case someone more knowledgeable thought it genuinely might be an option (even for the placebo effect, perhaps!).

The only other thing I can think of, MB, is this...
When babycarrot has nursed to sleep and stayed latched on, I sometimes get another letdown after she's asleep and not really sucking any more. I've got into the habit of whispering "milkie coming, babycarrot" when the letdown starts, and she stirs enough to get sucking again.

I still feel random letdowns throughout the day, when I'm pottering around the house. I don't leak or anything, just feel them happening.

If I was to grab her when I feel one coming on and get her on the boob quickly, perhaps with the "milkie coming" phrase, I'd get a quick opportunistic feed out of her.

Would that work for you? Do you still feel letdowns when you're not nursing?

[verylittlecarrot]

I'm not helping much, sorry. Probably you've seen all this but still, here

Really feel for you, mate.

[Monkeybird]

I feel like I've tried everything but I'm often so tired, I don't remember...

I am having problems with a slow let down at certain times of day. Last night it took 20 minutes... But then, junior was sucking constantly. At other times, he latches on and if there's no instant let down he comes off again, he relatches but for less and less time each go, until he finally gives up in distress.

It seems to be first thing in the morning for some reason that is the biggest problem, but I know he needs milk... Today I tried and tried and then didn't 'try' but just sat next to him, boob out hoping he'd just forget he was pissed off and latch on. He tried but not letdown so he gave up...

Will go back to Kellymom and JackNewman again but if anyone (Tiktok?) has any other suggestions (have tried all the naked, bathing, co-sleeping, expressing...)