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dealing with oversupply! am i doing this wrong??

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Doublebubblebubble Mon 23-Nov-15 14:25:21

Hi all... I have a 5 week old ds and for the past 2 weeks I have been having issues (I had no problems feeding my dd6) I initially thought he may have pilorex stenosis (sp??) because he was posseting A LOT!! And just generally fussing while feeding which wasnt frustrating at all anyway this morning at 4am I noticed that he had green poop Dr googled looked it up and it said that it could be a fore/hind milk issue went to lll and it says (or at least this is how I've interpreted it) to feed from one breast for a few feeds (up to 12 hours) and the other breast is uncomfortably full and then to hand express some so that its comfortable and then vice versa... Has anyone had this problem and have this work for them I've fed from my right for the last 4 feeds and my left boob hurts but isn't leaking but is uncomfortable. How often do I need to take turns as it were when do I stop all this business... Its so confusing. Sorry if this doesn't make sense x please help x

tiktok Mon 23-Nov-15 15:11:54

Double, I think it would help to speak to a real person. What you are doing is 'block feeding' and a 12 hour block is a very large one - usually the blocks are 4 hours at least at first. If you call any of the bf helplines they should be able to help. Over supply is a fairly common question.

Hope things get easier.

Doublebubblebubble Mon 23-Nov-15 15:58:22

Calling lll now x

villainousbroodmare Mon 23-Nov-15 16:02:57

My DS had similar symptoms. Fighty on the breast, crying immediately after feeding, bloating, severe discomfort, and green, frothy explosive poos that could shoot across the room. He also developed rough reddish skin on his cheeks. I had/ have a LOT of milk. I spoke to a lactaction consultant who pretty much told me that I didn't have a problem. angry My breast-feeding books suggested everything from elimination diets to nipple shields. Nothing helped much.

We battled away from 1 week to about 5 weeks at which point I visited another paediatrician who suggested lactose overload from endless short feeds of foremilk, leading to excess fermentation and gas production in the intestine - this gas obviously cannot be burped up. (I already reckoned something like this to be the case from hours of midnight googling).

She suggested simply spacing out the feeds to intervals of 3-4 hours and introducing a soother to satisfy his need for comfort suckling.

(I had being trying to block feed which just exacerbated the engorgement. I was pumping about 50 watery mls off when I was just bursting but if emptied a boob I'd get 150 to 200ml. I had even been mashing my poor breasts as advised by another eminent online source in a presumably fruitless attempt to mix foremilk and hindmilk.)

Anyway the spaced out feed routine (continuing to pump a bit when overfull) worked extraordinarily quickly and everything had normalised within 24 hours. I didn't really adhere rigidly to the schedule but DS seems to naturally want to be fed every 3 hours anyway and now that my supply has settled down, it's a relaxed pleasure.

I hope everything works out for you soon. Do try a lactation consultant or doctor. Or two.
(Obviously this is only my own experience and you may be dealing with a different issue.)

Doublebubblebubble Mon 23-Nov-15 16:38:36

villainous I could have written what you just have. Lll saying to try spacing feeds before trying block feeding (a bit late for me thanks internet lol) I have just pumped 2.5ml from bigger boob as I don't want to cause boob to be over stimulated. Glad to hear that it all worked out for you. X

Doublebubblebubble Mon 23-Nov-15 16:41:24

25ml sorry

villainousbroodmare Mon 23-Nov-15 17:39:34

Yeah, cheers, internet! wink

It's hard initially to space the feeds. You have to try to distract and use the dummy and sing songs and have cuddles and I also gave a little cool boiled water while watching the clock. Then you might need to pump a little if you are very full, just enough to help them latch.

It's possible to get so engorged that the baby literally cannot suck the milk out of the breast. It can be hard to pump it too. This can be part of the reason for the "fighty" feeding, another being the firehose letdown!

But then once you get into it, each feed is good and substantial, so they settle well (you hope!)

The other tip I got from the paediatrician was not to bother with burping. She said that babies will burp in their own time and from pretty much any position eventually, and that the gas that was causing the crying in our case was intestinal anyway and not "burpable uppable". This did prove to be the case for us, so that was great, especially at night.

I hope you get sorted!

Doublebubblebubble Mon 23-Nov-15 18:00:42

Any tips on getting baby to take a dummy lol ds is proving to be very very very very against them...

villainousbroodmare Mon 23-Nov-15 18:50:38

LOL @ "very very very very", you have my sympathy!

This will not help, but the day that I brought my screamy spotty miserable baby and my desperate self to the doctor, I got a call from our cleaning lady that our dog had been bitten by a snake and looked like he was dying. So I finished up at the docs, not without, might I add, crying in her consulting room, blush drove home very fast, grabbed the dog and left the baby with Maria as he was not anyway then supposed to be fed for three hours.

When I got back with the dog, who did not thankfully die, DS was sucking ferociously on a dummy. Maria said she had just kept putting in back in every time he spat it out. She's a persistent woman.

You might find that he'd like another brand.

I think I'd try with him in good form, and in your arms so he's getting the comfort of that.

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