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Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 19:43:43

Is it even legal?

Live in a lovely house, in a nice enough street but burglaries are becoming more and more regular here...

Had the police over again today asking for CCTV footage.

I was thinking something like this?

GoGoGadgetGin Wed 27-Feb-19 20:50:50

up l remember it better (sadly) now- my cousin was in morano st village at the time, absolutely awful, and yes it frightens me too when ever lm in any basement rooms.

Bumbumtaloo Wed 27-Feb-19 20:54:43

My dad lives in Calgary and they have bars at their ground floor windows. I can’t remember off the top of my head but you do something to get them to release in the event of a fire. It scares me shitless when I’ve stayed there and I worry that I wouldn’t remember what to do if there was a fire.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 20:55:33

I’ve just messaged a seller asking what, if any, safety features are in place in case of house fire.
Can the grill can be opened in an emergency?

I think if it cannot be easily opened then I don’t think I can do it as I would never forgive myself if any of my family died in fire.

I do feel very unsafe though and feel I have to do things, just not sure what.

Have CCTV already, going to get a security light and better window locks.

What else, if anything, can I do?

I want my house impenetrable from the outside

randomchap Wed 27-Feb-19 21:01:21

Bars don't make the house completely secure. Burglars will use car jacks to pry them off the wall. Lighting and cameras are far better deterrents.

Bumbumtaloo Wed 27-Feb-19 21:01:36

Oh should have said my dads fit inside their windows.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 21:24:42

Car jacks!
Bastards.

I suppose the cure for that would be to fit it in the inside, which in my opinion looks a great deal uglier!
Oh well.

Lighting and cameras yes, but what else can I do?

Already removed pretty much all hiding spots by removing hedging and keeping it all low and pruned and structured.

DH is planning on a low decked area (the driveway is uneven - can’t afford to get it levelled) and I would quite like to gravel the path so you can hear strangers approaching.
Although I suspect all the cats would crap in it and bits would get stuck in shoes and scratch my lovely wood floor. Maybe not.

Need to find an area for my green bins as a burglar could use them as a step up to the windows.

LascellesMoustache Wed 27-Feb-19 21:35:41

What about a burgler alarm?

Lemonsquinky Wed 27-Feb-19 21:51:09

The only problem with burglar alarms is you have to have them on every time you leave the house otherwise some insurance companies don't pay out. Also where do your pets go.
I was burglared twice and bars would be tempting. But how do you get out if there's a fire. I wonder if you could get shutters like French houses?

missmartini Wed 27-Feb-19 21:51:21

Anti snap locks are what we were recommended by police, apparently they're one of the best!

A burglar alarm is a good idea but just be careful with your house insurance. Where I am if you declare you have one then it has to be set every single time the house is locked/ secure if on the one time you go to bed and have guests so don't set it incase they set it off and something happens then your home insurance is void.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 21:54:14

These shutters, are they easily removed/broken?

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 21:56:42

And does shutters refer to these?

Or am I thinking of something else?

They are so pretty but they don’t seem very strong or secure to me?

TheInvestigator Wed 27-Feb-19 21:57:45

If you're getting the bars, just make sure you get them fitted with quick release foot pedals. Then there's no fire safety risk.

greenelephantscarf Wed 27-Feb-19 22:01:38

don't. unless you can easily open them from the inside in case you urgently need to get out.
maybe consider lockable tilt&turn windows.

LJS8987 Wed 27-Feb-19 22:05:03

@Doggydoggydoggy is there a theme in the area? I only ask because there have been lots of what they are calling 2 in 1 burglaries in my area where people are getting broken into (they are using blowtorches to get in through doors) and stealing high performance car keys then stealing the cars....the police have issued warnings to people with certain cars- everybody else is relatively ok...

Have you upgraded your locks? Add anything which will draw attention to your property if someone were to try and break in- I've added extra bolts to the back gate, had a really bright security light installed and one of my neighbours has started a neighbourhood watch

MissTook Wed 27-Feb-19 22:08:44

From personal experience French shutters are flimsy and won't hold back a burglar.
Same with the metal roller blinds they have in Spain. A burglar can bend then with no problem.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 22:19:21

I don’t think there is a theme no.

Just opportunistic thieving bastards getting in through the usual windows and doors and stealing any old valuable.
The one the police were asking about today scaled the fence to gain access and took jewellery.

Yes, I am going to upgrade the locks and get a good, bright light

spugzbunny Wed 27-Feb-19 22:31:10

Common in parts of Liverpool and I've seen it in Leeds and Nottingham too. CCTV or a good burglar alarm would probably be cheaper and just as effective though.

SpringForEver Wed 27-Feb-19 22:38:42

I had the sliding grille type of bars on most of my accessible windows and some fixed, cemented in ones. The non fixed ones opened with keys. When I sold the house I was asked why I had them and the simple answer was that I was away a lot, because I was.

Am thinking about getting them again. Or moving house which I would prefer. Or both.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 22:57:40

I’ve got a response back from the grille seller!

The grille is hinged but can only give emergency access if fitted on the inside.

Bit of a bummer as it’s not as aesthetically pleasing on the inside, in my opinion anyway, but, it will do the job and no risk of dying in a fire.

So, i’ll get DH to measure the windows tomorrow I think

Thisisthelaststraw Wed 27-Feb-19 23:23:49

I had a terrifying experience many years ago that left me feeling very vulnerable and unsafe in any home I lived since. I went through years of ridiculous security measures to feel safe enough to sleep. I’ve settled a bit now but will always feel panic if I hear a noise outside.

I have a few measures in place that allow me to sleep when dh is working nights..

I have a Rottweiler.
I lock all internal doors to rooms not being used (leave key in door in case of fire)
Gravel driveway
Small barker (jack Russel) outside (great alert dog)
Security lighting
Escape plan (three doors need to be gone through to get to us)
Fire escape window from escape room onto lower level roof
Strategically placed furniture to block said doors after we’ve (me and dd) locked them behind us.
Speed dial numbers on mobile

Sound like we live in a horror movie with threats all around but it’s just me. It’s what I need to feel safe however low the threat. After what happened years ago my fear is someone wanting to get to me or dd and not that they want my stuff. Fuck, I’d load up the van if stuff was all they wanted and make tea before they leave! That bastard will never know the lifetime of fear he left me with.

I’ve said to dh a few times that actually I think a creepy recording of some kind would be much better deterrent than a dog. Can you imagine breaking into a house (all you mumsnet burglars grin) and a very loud stereo begins to play circus music or a recording of a deep, whispering, menacing voice saying something scary or laughing like a maniac. grin

Realising after tying all that that it wasn’t very helpful. Sorry.

I think a creepy recording of some kind would be much better deterrent than a dog. Can you imagine breaking into a house (all you mumsnet burglars grin) and a very loud stereo begins to play circus music or a recording of a deep, whispering, menacing voice saying something scary or laughing like a maniac. grin

I think with IFTTT (if this, then that) you could create a rule so that an alert from this device and then that device could trugger ‘play mp3 of your choice’

Thisisthelaststraw Thu 28-Feb-19 14:28:28

Interesting @Borne. I’m not a techie but dh is so would interested to see if he could do ifttt. Must admit it makes me laugh to think of a burglar (from their mindset) breaking into a house in the dead of night and having the shite frightened out of them grin

Just realised I went into a ramble and never answered the actual op. No, I’d never put bars on my windows as I’d be too afraid of being trapped in a fire.

falcon5 Thu 28-Feb-19 18:29:49

I've had a lifetime before living here of bars on my Windows. They were always fitted on the inside. My dad always had at least one of the bedrooms have a hinged and padlocked section for fire (he knew a family who burnt inside). I had them.on my own place when I was older - by the end we had concrete rebar rods drilled and cemented into the walls on the inside, metal internal doors with additional locks on the inside of all external wooden doors and locked metal "rape gate" for the bedroom wing. Then we had a fucking earthquake when I was in bed........

Thisisthelaststraw Thu 28-Feb-19 18:50:39

Holy fuck @falcon shock
Where did you live?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Thu 28-Feb-19 18:53:19

I’m sure you can get some the you can ‘open’ from the inside should you need to escape. My sister was broken into a lot of times and bars made her feel more secure as the thieving ratbags weren’t above stealing when you were at home.

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